All Blind Faith cds removed from Ebay on grounds of Child Porn

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  1. Menino_veneno

    Menino_veneno Member Thread Starter

    I was bidding on a Mofi Blind faith cd when I got an email from Ebay stating that the item was removed on grounds of child pornography which is against their policy. After a search I found that there is no more BF mofi cds listed, anyone had the same problem or have more info on the matter?
     
  2. Jay F

    Jay F New Member

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    Pittsburgh, PA
    What mentalness.
     
  3. klownschool

    klownschool Forum Resident

    That's absurd and censorship at it's worst.
     
  4. Meng

    Meng Forum Resident

    For god's sake could someone please stop the world.

    I really really want to get off.
     
  5. MonkeyMan

    MonkeyMan A man who dreams he is a butterfly?

    Thank goodness I finally bought a M- Blind Faith MFSL / Japan set off this forum today! :goodie:
     
  6. BradOlson

    BradOlson Country/Christian Music Maven

    Now this is stupid. The album cover is just as famous as the music itself is.
     
  7. phish

    phish Jack Your Body

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    Biloxi, MS, USA
    redonkulous
     
  8. Steve Hoffman

    Steve Hoffman Your host Your Host

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    Los Angeles
    What they don't realize is that girl is 50.
     
  9. BradOlson

    BradOlson Country/Christian Music Maven

    eBay does get carried away. I consider this the equivalent of banning Amy Grant music due to the subject matter in the lyrics.
     
  10. ATSMUSIC

    ATSMUSIC Senior Member

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    MD, USA
    obviously some uptight/uninformed person complained about it.
     
  11. BradOlson

    BradOlson Country/Christian Music Maven

    I agree. This isn't nice to revisit some 39 year old controversy.
     
  12. phish

    phish Jack Your Body

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    can't you sell old playboy magazines on there?

    wtf is the difference? other than the blind faith cover isn't offensive at all to anyone in their right mind.....
     
  13. My feelings are part :eek: and part :laugh: but mostly :rolleyes:

    -s1m0n-
     
  14. eelkiller

    eelkiller One of the great unwashed

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  15. Blencathra

    Blencathra New Member

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    I guess it should really have been vetoed at the time of the original release (we weren't so anally retentive back then). Given that it wasn't...............this is somewhat churlish and displays a colossal ignorance.
     
  16. scotto

    scotto Senior Member

    Well, I guess the issue would be if the girl pictured is under 18. Any Playboy or adult film with Tracy Lord (Or is it Tracy Lords? I'm always getting the porn star confused with Katherine Hepburn's character in "The Philadelphia Story." But anyway...) is not permissible because she was underage.
    How old was the Blind Faith girl at the time of that photo?
     
  17. Blencathra

    Blencathra New Member

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    I remember reading she was certainly "underage", 13 or 14-ish? And related to someone - in the band, or a technician or something like that?
     
  18. phish

    phish Jack Your Body

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    what about nirvana's nevermind? you can see that kid's dingy on the album cover.....

    but these standards, straight up paedo....
     
  19. Another Side

    Another Side Senior Member

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    Try 11. :shh:
     
  20. Blencathra

    Blencathra New Member

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    Ah that's alright then. Had me worried for a minute.
     
  21. Another Side

    Another Side Senior Member

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    Apparently the photographer, Bob Seidemann, wanted a young girl and sought out one in the underground who turned out to be 14. It was felt that she was eventually too old for the pic, so they used her younger sister. :eek:
     
  22. Jay F

    Jay F New Member

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    Pittsburgh, PA
    :laugh:
     
  23. ATSMUSIC

    ATSMUSIC Senior Member

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    it's art, does anyone really get turned on by that picture? :laugh::rolleyes:
     
  24. Blencathra

    Blencathra New Member

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    Oh yea! See how many people admit to that one :righton:
     
  25. John Buchanan

    John Buchanan I'm just a headphone kind of fellow. Stax Sigma

    Story of the origins of the Blind Faith album cover, from Bob Seidemann's (photographer of the album cover artwork) perspective:
    I was being on the "scene" because it was happening. It was ground zero of the cultural revolution. How I managed it was by producing a handful of photographs for a small poster company I was a partner in. The company was founded by a raving poet with a hundred dollars and a picture of the face of Christ, supposedly an impression on the veil of Mary Magdalene. His name is Louis Rapoport, today he is news editor of the "Jerusalem Post". It was our first poster and it was a hit. My work consisted at the beginning of pictures of Janis Joplin and the Grateful Dead. They were impressionistic and successful.
    I called Eric Clapton in London to ask if he would put me up for a while. He did. I stayed at his flat in Chelsea with a wild crowd of ravers. The party had been going on for some time when I arrived. Other residents of the never-ending, day-for-night, multi-colored fling were Martin Sharp, a graphic artist and poet with an uncanny resemblance to Peter O'Toole, and the wildest of ravers, Philippe Mora, a young filmmaker who looked like a cherry Peter Lorre, and their handsome girlfriends. I bunked on a ledge under a skylight in the living room. All of the London scene came through. It was wild and wooly all over.
    A year passed and I had my own room in a basement flat in the same part of town with another bunch of hipsters. Not employed, I received a phone call from Polydor Records London Office. It was an assistant of Robert Stigwood, Clapton's manager. Cream was over and Eric was putting a new band together. The fellow on the phone asked if I would make a cover for the new unnamed group. This was big time. It seems though the western world had for lack of a more substantial icon, settled on the rock and roll star as the golden calf of the moment. The record cover had become the place to be seen as an artist.
    I could not get my hands on the image until out of the mist a concept began to emerge. To symbolize the achievement of human creativity and its expression through technology a space ship was the material object. To carry this new spore into the universe innocence would be the ideal bearer, a young girl, a girl as young as Shakespeare's Juliet. The space ship would be the fruit of the tree of knowledge and the girl, the fruit of the tree of life.
    The space ship could be made by Mick Milligan, a jeweler at the RoyalCollege of Art. The girl was another matter. If she were too old it would be cheesecake, too young and it would be nothing. It was the beginning of the transition from girl to woman, that is what I was after. That temporal point, that singular flare of radiant innocence. Where is that girl?
    I was riding the London Tube on the way to Stigwood's office to expose Clapton's management to this revelation when the subway doors opened and she stepped into the car. She was wearing a school uniform, plaid skirt, blue blazer, white socks and ball point pen drawings on her hands. It was as though the air began to crackle with an electrostatic charge. She was buoyant and fresh as the morning air.
    I must have looked like something out of Dickens. Somewhere between Fagan, Quasimodo, Albert Einstein and John the Baptist. The car was full of passengers. I approached her and said that I would like her to pose for a record cover for Eric Clapton's new band. Everyone in the car tensed up.
    She said, "Do I have to take off my clothes?" My answer was yes. I gave her my card and begged her to call. I would have to ask her parent's consent if she agreed. When I got to Stigwood's office I called the flat and said that if this girl called not to let her off the phone without getting her phone number. When I returned she had called and left her number.
    Stanley Mouse (Miller), my close friend and one of the five originators of psychedelic art in San Francisco was holed up at the flat. He helped me make a layout and we headed out to meet with the girl's parents. It was a Mayfair address. This was a swank part of town, class in the English sense of the word.
    Mouse and I made our presentation, I told my story, the parents agreed. The girl on the tube train would not be the one, she was shy, she had just passed the point of complete innocence and could not pose. Her younger sister had been saying the whole time, "Oh Mommy, Mommy, I want to do it, I want to do it." She was glorious sunshine. Botticelli's angel, the picture of innocence, a face which in a brief time could launch a thousand space ships.
    We asked her what her fee should be for modeling, she said a young horse. Stigwood bought one for her. I called the image "Blind Faith" and Clapton made that the name of the band. When the cover was shown in the trades it hit the market like a runaway train, causing a storm of controversy. At one point the record company considered not releasing the cover at all. It was Eric Clapton who fought for it. It was Eric who elected to not print the name of the band on the cover. This had never been done before. The name was printed on the wrapper, when the wrapper came off, so did the type.
    This was an image created out of ferment and storm, out of revolution and chaos. It was an image in the mind of one who strove for that moment of glory, that blinding flash of singular inspiration. To etch an image on a stone in our cultural wall with the hope that the wall will last. To say with his heart and his eyes, at a time when it mattered, this is what I feel. It was created out of and a wish for a new beginning. It was created out of hope and a wish for a new beginning. Innocence propelled by BLIND FAITH.
    Originally from an advert to sell lithographs of the Seidemann artwork during 1999.
     
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