Amazon Retires Music Storage

Discussion in 'Marketplace Discussions' started by snowman872, Apr 4, 2018.

  1. jimac51

    jimac51 A mythical beast.

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    I.too,got this message and emptied whatever Amazon was still holding,but can somebody explain to me like I'm a six year old if there is a connection with this step and Amazon's advancement into cloud services way beyond this piddling notice?
     
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  2. crookedbill

    crookedbill Well-Known Member

    Sucks, but I can't say this enough - Back up and store your entire music collection on multiple hard drives! I've got multiple cloned drives, at least one kept in a fire/water-proof safe.

    Worked way to hard and spent way too much money on my music collection over the decades to have it all disappear in the cloud.
     
  3. shaboo

    shaboo Forum Resident

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    And during all this time you did not rip your CDs and kept local copies?
     
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  4. cdash99

    cdash99 Forum Resident

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    But they'll be able to recoup their losses via a policy purchased from Amazon Insurance!
     
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  5. Dave Garrett

    Dave Garrett Forum Resident

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    I believe the OP said he ripped them once and then uploaded them to Amazon's cloud service. But I'm kind of amazed if, in fact, he did not keep local copies as well.

    "The cloud" sounds great until you remember that it's simply network-connected offsite storage, and your ongoing ability to access said storage hinges on the whims of a corporation and its business objectives. That, and the common belief that uploading something to the cloud in itself constitutes a "backup" - you don't really have backups unless you have three copies of a file, at least one of which is offsite.
     
  6. InStepWithTheStars

    InStepWithTheStars It's a miracle, let it alter you

    Which they'll also discontinue before "all the paperwork is properly finalized". And who's going to stop them?
     
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  7. snowman872

    snowman872 Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    I did, but not in any (global) organized fashion. The files are spread over a variety of hard drives, computers and burned media assembled over the years. It would take a lot of time to consolidate and organize them all and there's only so many hours in the day. I usually have more pressing matters to attend to. Also, one of my external hard drives recently failed. Not from lots of use, just from sitting on the shelf. Thanks Seagate!

    The Amazon Music Storage collection represented all my efforts in the aggregate.
     
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  8. quicksrt

    quicksrt Senior Member

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    Anyone who uploaded to any service and did not keep a full backup set of files deserves to get their cloud of tunes deleted out from under them. Aren't we now beyond just trusting that everything will be just fine and dandy?
     
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  9. snowman872

    snowman872 Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    Can't really say I feel like I "deserve" this. I trusted Amazon, one of the world's leading data storage providers with a paid service. I think it was reasonable to expect them to provide this storage service so long as I continued to pay for it. Even more so since they increased the limit of songs a few years ago, from 100,000 to 250,000. Customers have an valid expectation that a so call "reputable" company will not pull the rug out from under them in my view. These shenanigans will Amazon will be very costly to them in the long run. Dissatisfied customers will abandon them just as quickly like I have.
     
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  10. quicksrt

    quicksrt Senior Member

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    All of the biggies, the super-power companies do what appears to be cruel and mean, and even fatal moves against their customers. eBay was one such company that kept chipping away at their seller's profit margins until it was not profitable for many to see there anymore. They kept changing the rules and raising fees. And then changing rules that resulted in higher fees. And then again and again. It just never stopped. It killed off a lot of sellers completely. And it took the fun out of it for many others.

    From what I have read Amazon has started sticking it too their sellers as well. Little bits of charges here and there and firing some sellers who deal in lower cost goods. And even killing off their higher end sellers by finding out where they get their goods, finding the wholesale vender, buying a ton of the item and going head to head with a long term seller of that exclusive item - undercutting their prices, etc.

    Demanding that any Amazon seller never offer an item at a lower price elsewhere including the sellers own web store where they do not have all the fees to pay. That is called "price fixing" I think and it has not held up in other countries where Amazon has presence.

    Anyway it's not right what they are doing to the music storage cloud customers, but it should not be a shock, as these powerful companies are all about their profits and future customers. They don't see music as a future growth area - and so to them that customer base can piss-off.
     
  11. cdash99

    cdash99 Forum Resident

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    Trust???


     
  12. quicksrt

    quicksrt Senior Member

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    It's just a name that they used to put on the front of banks.
     
  13. black sheriff

    black sheriff Forum Resident

    I agree. When a buddy of mine built my first PC in the 90s this was the first rule that he taught me, always backup your files.
     
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  14. RayS

    RayS Paying attention like a rattlesnake does

    I totally feel your pain. As I mentioned in the thread I started in a different forum (which I guess will be merged with this one?), I still have all the CDs, and I even have the files stored on 2 separate hard drives. But I spent literally hundreds of hours getting everything nice and neat in "the cloud" so I could access my music digitally on all different platforms. "Alexa" has proven to be a very nice addition to my home, so I can listen to music in the kitchen or while in the shower. Clearly Amazon wants to sell streaming subscriptions via Alexa, and the one in a million crack pot like me who uploads over 100,000 songs is not their target market. :)
     
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  15. Mr Bass

    Mr Bass Chevelle Ma Belle

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    Unfortunately not paying attention has its drawbacks. IMDB closed down their customer forums sometime ago and Amazon itself has been messing with item reviewers and commenting functions for several years restricting user interactivity. I don't use Amazon except for gift cards. Amazon is not in the business of catering to you except to the point of delivery. After that aloha baby.
     
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  16. snowman872

    snowman872 Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    Sorry, wrong on all three accounts. It wasn't "old", it wasn't free (beyond 250 songs) and many people continue to use it to this day.
     
  17. snowman872

    snowman872 Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    +1 ... exactly. You get it Ray. It wasn't easy to try and get your library online and in decent shape with this aggravating service. And, like you I also purchased some Alexa accessories in order to access and play my library easily. One thing is for sure, I will never join their streaming music service. And I cancelled prime earlier this year, even before their greedy grab to raise the price another $20 this week.
     
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  18. quicksrt

    quicksrt Senior Member

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    It was kind of mean to say you deserved this. I should have just said you should not have been surprised by it at all. You did not deserve it, sorry about it.
     
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  19. snowman872

    snowman872 Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    No sweat quick ... Thanks for your apology and have a great day.
     
  20. Dr. Bogenbroom

    Dr. Bogenbroom I'm not a Dr. but I play one on SHTV

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    If they're all up in Amazon's cloud, organized and tagged to your specifications...why don't you just download them and re-upload elsewhere? Surely they have given you a notice and didn't just flip a switch. As mentioned previously, Google's is free (for mp3). I don't know where you're going to get free cloud storage for lossless, but...there are options.
     
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  21. pblmow

    pblmow Forum Resident

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    There are never any drones out here anymore. People shoot them....... I know it's against the law but you have to catch them.
     
  22. InStepWithTheStars

    InStepWithTheStars It's a miracle, let it alter you

    That was my initial thought when they introduced them. Before they finished the sentence I pictured a guy with a rifle in a lawn chair waiting for deliveries to fly over his house. People suck and there's nothing you can do about it.
     
  23. pblmow

    pblmow Forum Resident

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    That's kind of rough but it's true.
     
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  24. pblmow

    pblmow Forum Resident

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    I guess some of them will do it to steal the delivery but a lot of folks are paranoid and think the government is spying on them.
    It's silly and a little funny. I would rather go down and pick up my package before I would want to use a drone. Less hands = less problems.
     
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  25. Probably the most insightful encapsulation of this business shift. Amazon and eBay didn't really want to be in the business of providing a platform anymore for independent sellers and traders. Their business plan didn't require those kind of sellers anymore. But they also didn't want the public relations backlash of just announcing one day they were getting out of those markets - so they chipped away step by step until virtually no one remained. It was a carefully planned strategic withdrawal designed to remove most sellers from their platform without generating massive amounts of bad will with the current userbase.
     
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