Anthem Of The Sun - Anniversary Reissue

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  1. notesofachord

    notesofachord Riding down the river in an old canoe

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    I've been a fan of that 10/22/67 show for years, which should be no surprise to anyone. I love me the primal.

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  2. rbbert

    rbbert Forum Resident

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    The 2013 HDTracks also utilized the Plangent process
     
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  3. dloew

    dloew Forum Resident

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    Any clue however if at least it's the new remaster of the original mix? Or you think is same as a previous release, such as 2011 Rhino release of original '68 mix. A couple years ago B&N did a Aoxomoxoa release that used original '69 mix, so likely same as 2011 Rhino release I'd guess.

    Is odd though as this release corresponded with the 50th Anniversary deluxe release (and is advertised as such on B&N website!), so I would think/hope for the new remaster.... which I'd even prefer remaster of original mix to '71 mix.... but seems maybe not?
     
  4. aoxomoxoa

    aoxomoxoa I'm an ear sitting in the sky

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    As I reported earlier, it’s the same as the recent Rhino version, which sounds great.
     
  5. anth67

    anth67 Purveyor of Hogwash

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    I'm super glad this saw official release, too, because it had never really grabbed me before like most sets of this era even though I'm a primal Dead guy, too. Maybe I just never gave my previous copy (cobbled together from Taper's Section bits and elsewhere) a good enough listen, but the new disc sounds heavier than I remembered. Certainly LOVING this now, crown jewel status for TIFTOO alone. Jerry's just ripping, and really far out. Pig's adorning organ on Cryptical sounds more like the baroque-ish lines TC would've come up with...love how in step with Jerry he was in '67.

    After listening, I have no doubt that Bill the drummer is the only one drumming. Making the five-piece live photo in the booklet (which I've never seen before) the perfect visual suggestion of the band of freaks we're hearing.
     
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  6. Rne

    Rne weltschmerz

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    My local record store called to let me know my copy has arrived.
    I got into Grateful Dead in 2005. My first album was Anthem of the Sun, which I chose as my initial purchase for two reasons: because the label said that it featured a mixture of live and studio performances, a detail I found very attractive; and because of the late sixties WB logo on the cover that reminded me of some of the Looney Tunes I had watched when I was a kid (those late sixties shorts were generally pretty bad, with some few exceptions, but we're here to discuss music, not animation).
    It's a pleasure to buy it again 13 years later :)
     
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  7. Laservampire

    Laservampire Down with this sort of thing

    Yes it did, I forgot about that. Funnily enough the new remaster of the 1971 mix is a bit clearer and less compressed compared to the HDtracks.

    I really hope they have a good source to work with for the Aoxomoxoa 1969 mix.....
     
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  8. Galactus2

    Galactus2 Forum Resident

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    Agreed, I’m getting that too. They hit notes of high clarity that I haven’t heard before on this album.
     
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  9. Rne

    Rne weltschmerz

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    I've got my cd right here. The lenticular cover is really trippy indeed!
     
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  10. rbbert

    rbbert Forum Resident

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    Not less compressed, they are about the same dynamic range. Some tracks on the new one are a fraction more compressed, some a fraction less. No more than 1 dB difference anywhere.
     
  11. Frozensoda

    Frozensoda Forum Resident

    iTunes offered me a refund for my screwed up Anthem download, I accepted.
    Lesson learned. Will now order the CD.
     
  12. Rne

    Rne weltschmerz

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    I want to rectify my initial reaction to this recording. Sonic flaws aside (an uncomfortable stereo panning), I think it perfectly captures the band right in a transitional stage between the sound of the debut álbum and Anthem. More original material, more improvisation, but still not at the heights of the last portion of the year (11/10/67 is a perfect example). A very wise decision from the producers of this reissue, it's an historical moment of the band that hadn't been officially represented before.
    And, yes, it's definitely Billy alone on drums. And he's on fire.
     
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  13. GoodKitty

    GoodKitty FloydM

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    July 18 : It was 50 years ago today .... that Anthem Of The Sun was released :cheers:

    (says wiki)
     
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  14. uzn007

    uzn007 Watcher of the Skis

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    Glad to see you've come to your senses. :D
     
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  15. Davmoco

    Davmoco Forum Resident

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    I've owned this album for decades, but hearing this 50th anniversary edition blew my mind unlike any time I've ever heard it before. Don't know why, but it did.
     
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  16. footlooseman

    footlooseman Forum Resident

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    I’m goin to spin it backwards. Oh wait thats aoxomoxoa
     
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  17. KDubATX

    KDubATX A Darby Man Never Says When

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    I am enjoying this one a lot more than I would have guessed. Odds were high I would play the show a few times, and not do much with the album itself, but that has not been the case at all. Curious to do an AB comparison to my expanded edition from the Rhino box and see if it really sounds better, or if I just have not paid attention to the album in long enough for it to sound fresh.
     
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  18. oldjollymon

    oldjollymon right channel den/left channel kitchen

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    2 FYI's for those interested: Amazon US currently has the pic disc for $14.28

    ...& I was thrilled to see that the AutoRip incl. both mixes AND the '67 show! :righton:
     
  19. pbuzby

    pbuzby Senior Member

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    I don't know of many 1967 recordings with stereo drums, even studio recordings. Although it isn't done in a very sophisticated way it's notable.
     
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  20. Rne

    Rne weltschmerz

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    One word: BEAR. Always a step ahead.

    It's an unbalanced stereo drum kit. The snare drum seems to move a little bit in the soundstage sometimes, and the cymbals get weird in some parts. But these recordings were not originally made with the intetion of releasing them, so it's ok.
     
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  21. pbuzby

    pbuzby Senior Member

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    Garcia and Weir's guitars also move around some (usually they are both on the right, but sometimes one of them goes towards the center).
     
  22. dgwint

    dgwint Forum Resident

    Me too! This show has long been one of my go to pre-1970 shows!
     
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  23. d.douglas

    d.douglas Forum Resident

    How does the 68 mix stack up on the new reissue, when compared with the 2003 remaster?
     
  24. anth67

    anth67 Purveyor of Hogwash

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    I haven't done a side-by-side yet, but on first listen the new release sounds fantastic. Enough that I'm already assuming it's better than the remaster.

    As for the '68 vs. '71, both have their pluses and minuses. I go with '68 on That's It For the Other One, because of the drums on the choruses (though I prefer Bob's more singular vocal on the remix)...and the general weirdness. The '71 on Born Cross-Eyed all the way ~ the big chord, of course, but also the articulation of Bob's vocal on the "my how lovely you are, my dear" section. Sorry if I'm a broken record, I already noted some of this many pages back. But it was reconfirmed last night when I did a back-to-back listen.

    My memory was correct, too, that the '68 mix features an extra "know he had to die" on the Cryptical reprise (maybe even two of them...last night I thought I discerned a dreamy one I'd never heard before...if I didn't dream it). I might prefer the '71 edit on that bit, just 'cause it's what I internalized first.
     
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  25. Rne

    Rne weltschmerz

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    Every 15 days approximately I post something about the '72 European tour being the best ever, don't you worry :laugh:.
     
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