Any Brian Jones love here?

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  1. Michael

    Michael I LOVE WIDE S-T-E-R-E-O!

    Walking Dead...and that too!
     
  2. alexpop

    alexpop Power pop + other bad habits.... Thread Starter

    Grateful, post. :)
     
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  3. Michael

    Michael I LOVE WIDE S-T-E-R-E-O!

    LOL...good one.
     
  4. Purple Jim

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    Funny that, even in the 60s he came across as the soppiest one. Smiling away while the others looked tough and menacing.
    Keith was and always will be the Stones bad boy, not cuddly Brian.

    For you but that title goes to Dylan, Hendrix, Lennon and McCartney well before Jones (who penned practically nothing!).

    I never found them "terrifying" at all. Just a great rock 'n' roll band all the way.
    Beggar's was Mick and Keith's album, just like all the others (apart from the very early ones - full of covers). For Beggar's they had to force contributions from the disinterested Jones. Mick Taylor's contributions brought just as much to the Stones as Jones did, no, more in fact - all those fantastic solos which Jones could never have achieved.
     
  5. blackdograilroad

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    This is a bit like saying Jagger's crap because he's not much good on the guitar. Songwriting wasn't Jones's talent, and he was more a feel player than a technical virtuoso. Two that immediately come to mind are the mellotron on 2000 Light Years and the slide on No Expectations- neither are dazzlingly proficient parts but it's what they add in atmosphere and mood. Jones has been described as a musical colorist- that was his gift.

    I'm perfectly prepared to believe that Jones could be a monumental pain in the a** and brought a lot of his misfortune on himself. But I don't ever feel that sense of magic on the post-Brian records.

    One man's opinion. No less, no more.
     
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  6. Respect And Admiration as always. my mom and her friends just loved him
     
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  7. peter

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    Re post 336 - you nailed it. I have nothing to add. Beggars is my favourite Stones album and has been for a long time.
     
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  8. alexpop

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    The proof is in the grooves.
     
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  9. alexpop

    alexpop Power pop + other bad habits.... Thread Starter

    Acknowledged.
     
  10. Purple Jim

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    Exactly. I do feel such faaaantatstic magic on the post Jones records and on some post Taylor records. The greatness of the Stones has always been about Jagger, Richards & Co.
     
  11. tages

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    Again, what I meant (and possibly didn’t explain too well) is that Brian provided the “spooky” bits and interesting instrument choices that add an extra layer to the Stones’ music. He wasn’t the guitarist Mick Taylor is and that’s the point. He was something else. There’s an edge to him that to me is fascinating/terrifying. He wasn’t a songwriter but he embodied the spirit of the Stones like no other, in my opinion.

    And I love all eras of the Stones!
     
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  12. tages

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    Sorry, don’t know what happened there. Some of my replies got added to your quote! I “bold”ed them.
     
  13. Purple Jim

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    Well yes, he provided some lovely touches to the songs but I just don't share your fascination or terror.

    In retrospect it makes him seem like more of a bad boy but not in a good way. It's more off-putting than anything. He was a jerk, a big-head and a lead weight for the dynamisme of the Stones by 1968.
    Anyway, all that bad behaviour was totally unknown to the public at the time and for a long time after his passing, so that contributed nothing at all to the coy image he had in the 60s.

    Like no one else? It sounds more like you are describing Jim Morrison or Jimi Hendrix if you are talking about instrumentation. Brian could coax a nice little melody out of many different instruments and that saved money for the band but he hardly doing anything jaw-dropping with those instruments. Nice cosmetic touches but that's about it. Jones played like a little talented child compared to the unparalleled instrumental abilities of someone like Hendrix.
     
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  14. alexpop

    alexpop Power pop + other bad habits.... Thread Starter

    And with the theme of the thread title ❤️
    I let his contributions speak for themselves.
     
  15. blackdograilroad

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    .....and you started that post so well....... :) The greatness of the 60s Stones, the innovative band snapping at the Beatles' heels, was, for me anyway, just as much about Jones....without him It's Only Rock 'n' Roll.........

    ......but hey......difference is what makes the world go round.......
     
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  16. Purple Jim

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    I don't agree there. Mick and Keith wrote all the songs I'm afraid and that is what matters. Also I don't feel that their period of trying to be like The Beatles suited them at all. Their return to blues and rock 'n' roll was a triumph but Jones wasn't into that at all.:rolleyes:
     
  17. vinyldreams

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    Hendrix liked him, that must count for something for a big Jimi fan like you.
     
  18. blackdograilroad

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    Is it not generally accepted that (for one) Ruby Tuesday was written by Richards and Jones, whatever the credits claim?

    .....so Townshend wrote all the Who songs and that's all that matters?

    Wyman and Mick Taylor have separately claimed that they made significant compositional contributions to Stones songs but weren't co-credited........so quite who wrote what isn't as clear-cut as it may appear....
     
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  19. Stan94

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    Who’s he?
     
  20. Darrin L.

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    I'm sure any admiration he had for him was long gone, after the session for "All Along the Watchtower".
    Thank goodness they didn't allow him to ruin that recording. He really was just dead-weight.


    "Brian Jones stumbled into Electric Lady Studios,” Kramer told Esquire. “Out of his mind, and started to play piano on ‘All Along the Watchtower.’ Jimi looked at me. The look was, ‘Can we get him to stop?’ Jimi was so polite, never wanted to hurt anybody. But he was in the middle of a session and Brian wasn’t doing well.”

    Not wanting to cause a scene, Kramer quickly came up with a way to get Jones out of the studio. “So I said, ‘Brian, come into the control room and listen to what we’ve done,’ Kramer continued. “He staggered into the control room and fell, right in front of the console. Then he fell asleep. And we finished the track."

    Read More: When Brian Jones Crashed Jimi Hendrix’s Recording Session: ‘Can We Get Him To Stop?’ | http://ultimateclassicrock.com/brian-jones-jimi-hendrix/?trackback=tsmclip
     
  21. alexpop

    alexpop Power pop + other bad habits.... Thread Starter

    Check your profile. :)
     
  22. vinyldreams

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    ^^

    The piano was a disaster but he did end up playing percussion on AATW
     
  23. Darrin L.

    Darrin L. Forum Resident

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    What was the percussion...the sound of his head hitting the recording console?
     
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  24. vinyldreams

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    haha
    That’s him playing the thwack you hear at the end of each bar in the intro, on an instrument called a vibraslap.
     
  25. Darrin L.

    Darrin L. Forum Resident

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    I know...just Beng a wise-a$$.


    All Along the Watchtower - Wikipedia
     
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