Artists hurt by a label change

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  1. Chemguy

    Chemguy Forum Resident

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    It did sell, didn’t it. But it was more of a creative dip, I think.
     
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  2. Chemguy

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    You are not seriously arguing for the validity of that album are you? Released, not by the artist, but by his record label?

    Seriously?
     
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  3. J.A.W.

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    Duane Eddy when he left Jamie for RCA. His early RCA stuff was OK, then the decline set in...
     
  4. Walter Sobchak

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    War jumping to MCA seemed to stop them in their tracks
     
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  5. DaleClark

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    Maybe not so much due to a label switch, however, I’ve notice artists start to go down a little when they lose a sense of urgency. When they are first signed they really have to basically do what the label says...1 or two albums a year ( old days)...tour like hell...write the next album on the road ....but as they get more leverage, signing mney and only release a couple albums in 5 or 6 years, the quality dwindles. Of course not in all cases. All that in between downtime causes members to start thinking and tgen bicker with each other. Especially the members of a band that are not the main writers thus get less money. Just an observation.
     
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  6. AlecA

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    Not sure if it was coincidence or not, but Joni Mitchell's move from Asylum (For The Roses through Shadows and Light) to Geffen marked the end of my favorite period of hers. She went back to Reprise after the four Geffen albums, but at the magic was gone.

    I don't know if she left Asylum out of loyalty and friendship to David Geffen, the subject of Free Man in Paris, or if Asylum was unhappy with her detour into jazz with Mingus and Shadows and Light and dropped her.
     
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  7. Instant Dharma

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    After REM, Joni was my next choice.
     
  8. Oatsdad

    Oatsdad Oat, Biscuits, Abbie & Mitzi: Best Dogs Ever

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    Yes, "OY" was their first Arista album, and that was "past-peak".

    You claimed they peaked with "BBB" and I said I thought they peaked earlier. They were still reasonably close to the peak in 1984-85, but I think they were starting to slip...
     
  9. Oatsdad

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    If setlist.fm is correct, they didn't.

    Looks like they've played "Everything Your Heart Desires" sporadically over the last 20 years - kind of a surprise given that it was a #3 hit!
     
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  10. Say It Right

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    Debate doesn't interest me. Big Bam Boom had songs that were everywhere that year, and they got headliner status at Live Aid. Things weren't going to get much bigger for them.
     
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  11. Michael

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    NRPS when they left Columbia, although the band was on the downfall...
     
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  12. Michael

    Michael I LOVE WIDE S-T-E-R-E-O!

    yes, lean musical times for Neil...
     
  13. Elliottmarx

    Elliottmarx Always in the mood for Burt Bacharach

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    Certainly Prince's animus for Warner Bros. (powerful enough for him to change his name to an unpronounceable symbol and then dump albums on Warner at a frenzied pace to get out of his contract) and his transfer to Arista did not help him secure chart hits.
     
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  14. seed_drill

    seed_drill Senior Member Thread Starter

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    I first misread this as NRBQ, and was like, um, they only made one album on Columbia!
     
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  15. longdist01

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    This deal didn't help the band members
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    Musically they had no Hits as compared to Apple years, even the Apple years weren't a financial gain, but artistically yes!​
     
  16. Michael

    Michael I LOVE WIDE S-T-E-R-E-O!

    LOL...
     
  17. Siegmund

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    OP states this is about suffering commercially, not artistically, through a label change, so PW is not a contender.

    Mariah Carey switching from Sony to EMI would be a perfect match, though.
     
  18. john hp

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    Sam & Dave - Stax to Atlantic
     
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  19. Flippikat

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    Yep, terrible story right there. Warehouse was a pretty decent effort (I think it's an under-rated album), and going by the evidence of Bob & Grant's post-Du albums, they were certainly poised for huge success if they'd stuck together & got the right producer.

    In some alternate reality, Husker Du and REM are the two-pronged assault on mainstream rock between 1988 and 1992
     
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  20. Two albums, actually. And the problem wasn't that they took a commercial dive, but that they weren't selling much better than when they were on an independent label.
     
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  21. phil1db

    phil1db Senior Member

    Amon Düül II -United Artists to Nova/Atlantic/ATCO (depending on the country)
     
  22. Someone like Steve Lillywhite probably could've done great things with them.
     
  23. pbuzby

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    I thought Grant Hart's problems were the main reason they split.
     
  24. czeskleba

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    People forget that the Everlys were just as successful at Warner's as they were at Cadence for their first couple years, racking up a third #1 hit and a half dozen top ten hits. It wasn't until about two years into the WB contract that their fortunes declined.
     
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  25. Chemguy

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    Not in the title, he didn’t. I’m sticking with my assertion.
     
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