Automated FM Radio: Anybody remember the "Stereo Rock" format?

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  1. MLutthans

    MLutthans That's my spaghetti, Chewbacca! Staff Thread Starter

    "Stereo Rock" was an automated radio format out of Texas, from a company called TM Productions. Basically, they would ship out reels of songs, with announcements, to stations, so little or no local on-air staff was required. I remember KNWR 104.3, "Northwest Rock," in Bellingham, WA, had this format starting in, I'm guessing, 1979 or so, and carried it for several years, and I thought it was actually pretty good.

    A few years ago, my brother in Florida came across a TM productions "demo reel," and I recently stumbled across the mp3 transfer I made, so thought I'd upload it for y'all to listen to, as I'm sure many here had a "Stereo Rock" station in their area at one point.

    The first 4 minutes or so are entertaining "blah blah blah" about how great the format is, but then it changes over to play segments of what the broadcasts actually sounded like. Voiceovers were done by John Borders, whom I would have have never guessed to have been from Texas!

    Anyway, if you had one of these stations in your area, the latter half of this reel will undoubtedly bring back some memories.

    You can listen to the mp3 here: https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B7qgH1HDldamcExlYW10aFk1TWM

    EDIT: TM also offered a "Beautiful Rock" automated format, and somebody has uploaded that demo reel here: http://shelf3d.com/c3AlU-YdcFo#TM Beautiful Rock 1979
     
  2. MLutthans

    MLutthans That's my spaghetti, Chewbacca! Staff Thread Starter

  3. seed_drill

    seed_drill Senior Member

    Location:
    Tryon, NC, USA
    I don't know if it was called that, but the only fm rock station in upstate NY was owned by one of the top 40 AM stations, and their music would loop, so that Meat Loaf was always followed by Boston, or whatever. My clock radio, which I did most of my listening on was AM only, so I didn't listen to it that often. When I did hear it, I kind of missed the djs, even though I could appreciate it's superior fidelity.
     
  4. McLover

    McLover Senior Member

    TM Productions Stereo Rock was one of the better early tape automated AOR formats you could get then. Drake-Chenault was the only thing really comparable to it. Both of these companies made really good sounding automation tapes. Wish I had a reel of Stereo Rock. And at least one tape of each TM automated format.
     
  5. Vidiot

    Vidiot Now in 4K HDR!

    Location:
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    Yeah, I remember TM had both jingles packages and automated radio formats in the 1970s. I'm positive I have one of their jingle demos around here somewhere. Drake-Chenault was really, really good. I don't remember who had the "Hit Parade" format -- it might have been D-C -- but that's the one the FM rock station in Tampa used from the late 1960s until about 1973, when FM rock took off on its own with AOR and other live formats.

    A lot of these syndication formats died once corporations like Clear Channel began consolidating all the local stations. Instead of dealing with one station in each market, instead, the syndicators had to deal with one corporation that owned stations in 200 cities (or more). If the corporation didn't like the syndicated show, it was done. This has really killed Premiere and all the other music-syndication companies. Now, all they can really sell are talk shows, particularly political shows like Rush Limbaugh and stuff like that. The days when American Top 40 were on in 1500 stations around the world are over with.
     
  6. McLover

    McLover Senior Member

    Hit Parade was a Drake-Chenault format. And was later on called Contempo 300. Satellite formats or CD based formats replaced the tape formats in the late 1980's. The reason why rock formats on tape based systems and Top 40 took longer to be viable was the early tape based automation systems could not yet segue and pre-roll tight enough for those formats. Easy Listening formats had looser formatics.
     
  7. mavisgold

    mavisgold Senior Member

    Location:
    bellingham wa
    Automated radio started long before this

    http://archive.pdxradio.com/radio/history/messages/995/3783.html

    On September 23, 1959 the FCC granted a construction permit to build an FM station on 95.5 mc. in Portland OR to (I.G.M.) International Good Music, Inc. (Lafayette "Rogan Jones", President; David Mintz, Executive Vice-President). IGM, founded in 1958, was a builder of broadcast automation systems, headquartered in Bellingham WA, where the company operated KVOS AM-TV. In early October 1959 calls KGMG were assigned, standing for "Good Music", the format term for classical music.
    ...

    On September 25, 1960 KGMG began regular operation at 7:00AM with it's IGM automation system. Mr. Bowman: "We will broadcast the great classics, lighter works, folk music, jazz & music from Broadway." KGMG broadcast 7AM to 1AM daily. Only selected commercials would be played. No singing jingles allowed. Newspaper Ad: "FM listeners can share the enjoyment of the worlds' greatest music. Heritage Music, programmed by a staff of musical experts. Selected from one of the largest music libraries in the world. 18 hours a day are now programmed for you. Music carefully balanced to the time and mood of the day." Slogan: Your Heritage station.

    By this time "Heritage Music" programming was also heard on other IGM owned FM stations: KGMI 92.9 Bellingham, KGMJ 95.7 Seattle, KFMU 97.1 Los Angeles & KFMW 99.9 San Bernardino. In November 1960 KQFM moved it's transmitter & antenna across Council Crest Dr. to the KGMG facitity. In early 1961 KGMG power was reduced to 68KW. In October 1961 KPDQ-FM & Electromatic, Inc. also began leasing antenna space at the KGMG Tower site. By March 1962 KGMG was broadcasting the recorded "Heritage Concert" series. Slogan: Heritage Music FM.

    On March 17, 1962 KGMG became the 2nd Portland station to broadcast in multiplex stereo. In July 1962 KGMG began leasing antenna space to Pacific Motor Trucking Co. for a 25 watt VHF transmitter. By October 1962 James L. Hamstreet was General Manager. He was based in Bellingham. Marc Bowman continued as Station Manager. By November 1963 William J. Trader was Station Manager. On April 20, 1964 KGMG switched to an automated MOR format from IGM. By mid 1964 KGMG was broadcasting 9AM to 11PM daily. By October 1964 John S. Mackwood was Station Manager & Chief Engineer with Virgina C. Kupfer as Program Director.
     
  8. MLutthans

    MLutthans That's my spaghetti, Chewbacca! Staff Thread Starter

    Yes, Mavisgold, that's a fascinating story, actually. There's a book called something like "Northwest Sounds" [EDIT: It's called "Puget Sounds; see here] that documents this pretty well, and I talked to the author, geez, maybe 20+ years ago when I was doing some work at the Sand Point Naval Station regarding the Milo Ryan Phonoarchive. I can't recall the details all these years on, but there was something in his book that I had to figure out when I was working with the Milo Ryan stuff. Plus: If you go to the music library at Western Washington University, you'll find a TON of old mono classical LPs on Westminster, Epic, RCA, Capitol -- you name it, and I mean HUNDREDS of mono LPs. Why? Rogan Jones' company used all these LPs for transfer to large 14" reels (at 3.75 IPS, IIRC, but my memory may be clouded on that bit of info) for radio automation, then he'd donate them to the university after duplication. Some of his reels wound up there, too, when I worked there in the 1980s. Fascinating stuff, and not exactly common knowledge. Gold star for you, my Bellingham friend! :)
     
  9. McLover

    McLover Senior Member

    Usually, 7 1/2 IPS 2 track Stereo or full track mono was standard format. Most of the time 10 1/2" or 14" reels used. The main 14" playback machines used in radio automation were Scully 270 reproducers, the LJ series in the 1970's. They used Maytag washing machine motors for spooling on the 270 decks. Lock down thy hubs, the rewind speed on those monsters were frightening and if the reel or reels came off of the machine could injure a person or get lodged into a control room wall. The hazards of the job.

    Maintained and ran those machines as a young broadcast engineering assistant/baby DJ. Feather the brakes before stopping one lest tape spills and stretches. And those old automation systems kept engineers busy on the maintenance alone. We called ours Mother Effer, she was an old stepper driven Gates rig. Later on around 3 years later, she was replaced by a Harris Stereo 90, we called that one Auntie. Other companies who made tape based automation were Tape-A-Thon, Schafer, SMC, MEI, Broadcast Electronics and others.
     
  10. rockclassics

    rockclassics Senior Member

    Location:
    Mainline Florida
    Great thread. Thanks for the history lesson.
     
  11. Dillydipper

    Dillydipper Space-Age luddite

    Location:
    Central PA
    We called ours "R2D3", or alternately , "Whee-Dee-Dee", after the alarm noise it made when it required attention (usually when you were in the next studio over, just cracking the mic to read a 3-minute wire copy news roundup)(and yes, occasionally I would leave the studio doors open, so I could listen for mistakes before they became big ones...got caught a couple of times that way).




    Now playing on http://www.arielstream.com/]Ariel Stream[/URL]: Olive - You're Not Alone
     
  12. smokeverbs

    smokeverbs Senior Member

    Location:
    Detroit, MI, USA
    The predecessor to the "Jack" format?
     
  13. ridernyc

    ridernyc Forum Resident

    Location:
    Florida, USA
    The jack format is so much worse though. These were a prerecorded show that flowed. Jack is a mountain of prerecord crap that sounds out of place. You also have stuff like that John Tesh show where songs play and then Tesh in a horrible sound booth monotone reads some really silly generic news story.

    There is no flow to any of these new automated systems and you can spot them instantly.
     
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  14. McLover

    McLover Senior Member

    Indeed, even the lesser tape formats sounded much better than Jack. And the best tapes syndicators supplied blow most any modern satellite audio into the weeds.
     
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  15. rockclassics

    rockclassics Senior Member

    Location:
    Mainline Florida
    Trying to listen to any of the Jack-off like formats today is like listening to a train wreck. the programmer(s) have to be saying "Ok. Let's see what series of songs we can string together that will sound the most out of place. Pink Floyd followed by Abba. That's a good one."
     
  16. rockclassics

    rockclassics Senior Member

    Location:
    Mainline Florida
    :biglaugh:

    The first time I read your message I read it as "the tape syndicators supplied blow". That missing comma really changed the meaning.
     
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  17. Vidiot

    Vidiot Now in 4K HDR!

    Location:
    Hollywood, USA
    Yeah, I know. BTW, I get very excited when people throw around cool radio terms like "formatics" or "sweep to the quarter hour" or "stop-set." Love that stuff.

    Hank Landsberg has a very nice tribute to the old Drake-Chanault studio and their productions on this website:

    http://www.drakechenault.org/

    Gary Dell'Abbate, Howard Stern's producer, calls the Jack FM format like "listening to an iPod on shuffle... unfortunately, it's somebody else's iPod, and they have terrible taste." Very true. I can't stand that format, myself.

    A real radio format, where somebody uses taste, good judgement, and guts to pick songs that naturally flow together and represent a unified style... that kind of thing is very hard to find anymore.
     
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  18. troggy

    troggy Papa-Oom-Mow-Mow

    Location:
    Benton, Illinois
    If anyone is interested in the TM Productions Stereo Rock format, there are a couple of clips on youtube of radio station WKTI out of Milwaukee, circa 1976.
     
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  19. MLutthans

    MLutthans That's my spaghetti, Chewbacca! Staff Thread Starter

    @troggy -- thanks!

    I see that some of the links in the original post have gone belly-up over the past two years, so hears a re-upload of the original sample reel, if anybody's interested in hearing it:
    https://app.box.com/s/gcqtsvh79ad6rhbg287n
     
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  20. troggy

    troggy Papa-Oom-Mow-Mow

    Location:
    Benton, Illinois
    I remember hearing the Stereo Rock format on WKTI as a kid when we stayed overnight in Milwaukee, probably around 1978.

    The other two stations that I remember using the format were WFBQ in Indianapolis, which used Stereo Rock until it became an album rock station on Valentine's Day 1978 and WIXX in Green Bay which used it until sometime in the 80's.
     
  21. MLutthans

    MLutthans That's my spaghetti, Chewbacca! Staff Thread Starter

    We only had one around here that I know of, KNWR 104.3, now KAFE 104.1, in Bellingham, WA.
     
  22. troggy

    troggy Papa-Oom-Mow-Mow

    Location:
    Benton, Illinois
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  23. Eric Hall

    Eric Hall Well-Known Member

    Location:
    California
    Does anyone know anything about "Broadcast Programming" out of Seattle? I have a bunch of their old "Rock Classics" Category B, tapes, I quite like.
     
  24. MLutthans

    MLutthans That's my spaghetti, Chewbacca! Staff Thread Starter

    I grew up listening to KRKO radio (Everett, WA) when it was a Top 40 station. For years, it has been an odd assortment of news/talk/sports/local, but has now added an FM broadcast and reverted to a mostly-music format (still some sports and other things), and it's AUTOMATED. I don't think I've heard an automated music station (in the classic sense) since about 1985 around here.

    Everett Radio - Greatest Hits, Sports & More | KRKO - AM 1380 / FM 95.3
     
  25. McLover

    McLover Senior Member

    Also, Bellingham, WA was headquarters of IGM, Inc. International Good Music. Makers of automation systems and programming on open reel for the systems. Also, another major syndicator, BPI (Broadcast Programming Incorporated) was based in Bellingham, WA.
     
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