First off, I know this thread has probably been done 1,000 times over. I'm not looking for any recommendations or anything but just wondering what other peoples thoughts are and wanted to discuss it a bit. Of course at similar price points we all know that AVRs do not perform as well as a comparatively priced separte/integrated amp configurations. Just wondering if there's a general consensus on how much better or worse one is than another? So for instance I usually think that one's price range on an amp should fall between what they paid for one speaker and what they paid for the pair. i.e. if your speakers were $800 each buy a 2 channel amp between $800 - $1,600. Given this, how much would one spend on an AVR to get comparatively similar sound quality for music listening? Putting it another way, how much better is a $1,000 integrated amp vs a $1,000 AVR for 2 channel music listening?