Beatles '83 colorband - Magical Mystery Tour

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by JamesD1957, Jul 8, 2013.

  1. JamesD1957

    JamesD1957 Active Member

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    Sorry to start another Beatles thread, but can't find the answer I'm looking for. I would like to get one of those reissues, but my question is this: Which version of Strawberry Fields Forever is on this LP? I really prefer the earlier '66 stereo recording, and I do have that on my Capitol original, and Apple re-press. However another mix was introduced in '71, and it's the one used on CD's, remasters, and the like. Seems that the '83 reissues tried to stay somewhat faithful to the originals, but with better vinyl and better sound. Anybody know?
  2. pbuzby

    pbuzby Forum Resident

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    I have the purple Capitol and it uses the 1966 mix. I think the 1983 does too.
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  3. Tommyboy

    Tommyboy Forum Resident

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    The colorband reissue contains the 1966 stereo mix. My copy sounds better than the original pressing, but it's still not great sounding.
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  4. JamesD1957

    JamesD1957 Active Member

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    Thanks Tommyboy. Keep up the good posts!
  5. JamesD1957

    JamesD1957 Active Member

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    Not great sounding, but what would be better if I'm after that particular mix of SFF?
  6. Ben Adams

    Ben Adams Forum Resident

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    The German Hor Zu/Apple pressing of MMT.

    Or the 2012 vinyl reissue, which sounds spectacular and is generally one of the most highly regarded releases from that set.
  7. JamesD1957

    JamesD1957 Active Member

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    Yeah, the Horzu definitely gets a lot of votes as far as overall album sound, but it doesn't have the '66 mix of Strawberry Fields Forever. The 2012 definitely doesn't. That's my deal breaker, so I'm after the best sounding vinyl that contains that particular mix.
  8. John Carsell

    John Carsell Forum Resident

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    The '83 colorband reissue would be your best bet. The '66 stereo mix of SFF can also be found on US and Canadian pressings of 1967-1970.
  9. Thesmellofvinyl

    Thesmellofvinyl Well-Known Member

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    JamesD1957, does your original Captiol have SMAL-2-2835-B22 3 in the deadwax on side 2? That's what I just played and I think it sounds good. In case you ever stumble upon a copy that looks good to you. Glad to see this thread. It's the first I've seen (or noticed) that mentions the '83 containing this mix.
  10. goodiesguy

    goodiesguy Only A Northern Song

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    There's another mix other than the one on CD?

    Where can I find this mix?

    And why the hell did they feel the need to change it on the CD's (along with Help and Rubber Soul).
  11. Thesmellofvinyl

    Thesmellofvinyl Well-Known Member

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  12. goodiesguy

    goodiesguy Only A Northern Song

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  13. I never considered the '83 colorband for this and relied on the MFSL lp. I'll have to keep an eye out. I don't recall ever seeing an '83 colorband of this one, but then again I was not looking for one.
  14. Tommyboy

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    That is your best option for the 1966 stereo mix.
  15. CDmp3

    CDmp3 Well-Known Member

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    1967-1970 also uses the 1966 mix. But vinyl (cassette and 8-track) only
  16. Ben Adams

    Ben Adams Forum Resident

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    I misread your post. Thought you were looking for the '71.
  17. empirelvr

    empirelvr Well-Known Member

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    This "new" mix dates from when Horzu in Germany wanted to release their own LP version of Magical Mystery Tour using the USA LP's running order in the very early 1970's. (1971? 1972?)

    Horzu requested true stereo mixes of the singles tracks that made up the second side of the LP that were not mixed for stereo back during their original release.

    So, EMI prepared first time stereo mixes of "Penny Lane**," "Baby You're A Rich Man," and a new mix of "Strawberry Fields Forever" specifically for this LP. Since the original 1966 stereo mix of SFF only appeared in the US and Canada (and nowhere else) it might have been a case of clerical error in thinking there was no extant (or officially approved) stereo mix already in the vault like there was for "Hello Goodbye."

    Since SFF was not released in stereo anywhere aside from the USA/Canada, this 1971 mix became the de facto standard stereo mix of the song worldwide ever since. (Along with "Penny Lane" and "Baby, You're A Rich Man" as well.)

    ** I believe there is debate over when the stereo mix of "Penny Lane" was made. I remember reading it made an appearance on a foreign compilation before the German MMT LP suggesting it might have been in the can before Horzu's request.

    EDIT: Meh...I just saw someone above linked to threads that say what I pretty much said here. Sorry for the repetition. :(
  18. Frittenköter

    Frittenköter Forum Resident

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    I doubt Hoer Zu had any say over it. Hoer Zu was a magazine, not a record label.
  19. empirelvr

    empirelvr Well-Known Member

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    Wikipedia (not always a good source I admit) has it that Hörzu, while being a magazine, also had a record label that was a subsidiary of the Electrola label which was part of EMI. Maybe the request came from Electrola instead...let's juat say the German branch of EMI made the request for clarity's sake. :)
  20. pbuzby

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    Aside from the SH threads you might also look at http://www.columbia.edu/~brennan/beatles/var-1966.html where near the bottom of the page there is a concise description of the two mixes and where they appear (although it is now around ten years out of date).
  21. JamesD1957

    JamesD1957 Active Member

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    Mine has 2835-H36 in the deadwax. It sounds okay, but if there is something better out there on vinyl, I would like to get it.
  22. dlokazip

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    Does anyone know if this pressing sounds better than the UK Parlophone? I know that the colorband is the preferred pressing and that the purple label Capitol sounds pretty good, as well. How do the UK pressings compare? Also, are any of the UK pressings "HTM" pressings?
  23. ShallowMemory

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    HTM cut the UK version.
  24. dasacco

    dasacco Forum Resident

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    I have a 1976 orange Capitol label version of this LP with the 1966 mix. MASTERED BY CAPITOL in the deadwax, with "Wally" for Wally Traugott. Sounds fantastic. Easily better than my original, and better than my MFSL copy. The original US 1967-1970 mastered at STERLING with "LH" (Lee Hulko I believe) has the 1966 mix and sounds pretty good but again not as good as my orange label "Wally". I don't have a 1983 colorband issue. The later purple label issue - smaller Capitol logo, "C1" prefix in the catalog number is from the 1987 digital master, thus not containing the 1966 SFF mix.
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  25. dlokazip

    dlokazip or Current Resident

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    My orange label MASTERED BY CAPITOL MMT has "Jay" in the deadwax. It doesn't sound so good.

    I've already read enough about the C1's to be wary of them.