Beatles mono VINYL box set (Part #15)

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  1. vinylman

    vinylman Senior Member

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    Leeds, U.K.
    Thanks, John. That's ANOTHER choice; Macca CDs first or vinyl?. Oy...................
     
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  2. teag

    teag Forum Resident

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    Colorado
    Yes, I have the 2012 box set remaster version which does not sound as good as the German - not close. Other than that just have early 70's Capitol issues which can't compete with these as we all know.
     
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  3. teag

    teag Forum Resident

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    Agree to a point. On some mono LP's one can hear as much detail as on a stereo. On others, the mono is muddy compared to the mono. This one is the ladder.
     
  4. Vinyl Dude

    Vinyl Dude Well-Known Member

    Yes it is. Unfortunately, as the story goes, the original master of the Ringo version was destroyed and discarded by EMI almost immediately after the single hit shops, as they didn't think the tapes would be needed any more past that point (and let's remember that, upon their initial signing to Parlophone, the boys were regarded by the bigwigs at EMI Central just as Parlophone itself was at the time: a LOW prioroity; they did LITLE, in fact, to even promote "Love Me Do"). So, from all I've read, in each instance of its re-release (first on the 1980 "Rarities" comp, Past Masters, and so on), a clean, original U.K. single (processed and filtered to get rid of as much surface noise as possible) had to be used in the mastering process.
     
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  5. teag

    teag Forum Resident

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    "Ladder" is slang for sounding like mud.........
     
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  6. Kim Olesen

    Kim Olesen Gently weeping guitarist.

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    Odense Denmark.
    Hey man. Big congrats on that :)
     
  7. vinylman

    vinylman Senior Member

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    Leeds, U.K.
    Thanks, kim. It's going to be strange actually having money in my pocket. I doubt it'll be there for long, though.
     
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  8. Robin L

    Robin L Musical Omnivore

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    Not with these LPs still in the bins, waiting to be purchased.
     
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  9. vadthebad

    vadthebad Well-Known Member

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    World of Music
    Speaking of "the ladder", the worst of it is in some parts of Help!, BFS, and WA, IMHO.
     
  10. teag

    teag Forum Resident

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    Agree. To me the WA is full of ladder. Much prefer the stereo UK cut from the early 80's.
     
  11. vadthebad

    vadthebad Well-Known Member

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    Yes. However, if I just listen to the music, not trying to compare (concentrate on) the "sound quality", the mono versions sound more natural to me, anyway. Except for Side 1 of "Help!" which bugs me the most.
    PS
    BTW, the stereo version of "She Said, She Said" sounds a bit edgy, compared to the mono which is the best to my ears.
     
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  12. Decided to buy the vinyl box set after all, and received it today.

    All albums have this "mastering info leaflet", correct? Mine is missing from "A Hard Day's Night", and it should be there, right?

    The 3-LP "Mono Masters" doesn't have a leaflet either, but I assume there isn't supposed to be one.

    My "White Album" is quite heavily warped (not extreme, but more than tolerable in my opinion), Three more albums (Sgt. Pepper, Magical Mystery and the first LP of Mono Masters) are also warped more than I like, but not as bad as the "White Album". One or two other ones are a little bit warped but still tolerable.

    Also, the white cardboard box was not sealed when I got it. There is a thin carboard slipcase around the sturdy box, and the albums are in the individual re-sealable sleeves (except for Mono Masters, that one was just shrinkwrapped), but there was no seal around the whole box. Is that normal? I ordered in Germany.
     
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  13. JP Christian

    JP Christian Forum Resident

    Not my experience, all my records are perfectly flat (don't mean to gloat) - paid £275 from What Records in the UK - so at just under £20 an LP and a nice book and box thrown in, I'm quite content, yes, it irks me a little that these records can be bought much cheaper in the US, but it's still great value for money.
     
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  14. vadthebad

    vadthebad Well-Known Member

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    Mine is the same, except for AHDN which is with the leaflet, and no warps at all. Only 2 or 3 spindle holes punched a bit tight, but in the acceptable tolerance zone.
     
  15. Thanks.
     
  16. GreatTone

    GreatTone Forum Resident

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    Falls Church, VA
    I really like the mono box, but on a whim I decided to compare I Saw Her Standing there on the current mono vs. my 1981 mono reissue; side 1 of that was re-cut by Harry Moss, side 2 used the original mastering. Just on that one cut alone, I have to say I prefer the 1981 -- it has stronger bass (though not as articulated), and has an edge that brings out the energy in the vocal. That edge is not distortion, but maybe an EQ tweak that emphasizes a slightly raspy quality that really rocks. By comparison, the current mono is more relaxed (in a good way) and effortless, maybe more audiophile, but a bit tame. It's only something I noticed in a back-to-back comparison. I was blown away when I first dropped the needle on side 1 on the new mono, and I still like it a lot, but for different reasons than I like that 1981 reissue. In other words, I think people's initial opinion that this box makes the 1981's irrelevant was a bit hasty.
     
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  17. corr64

    corr64 New Member

    Yes my box was not sealed. I find the cellophane handy for not getting fingerprints on the sleeves.
     
  18. corr64

    corr64 New Member

    Ta :)
     
  19. corr64

    corr64 New Member

    Seems like the 1st pressing are the 'Go To' one's for all the albums, & yes it's all down to personal preference.
     
  20. bonzo59

    bonzo59 Forum Resident

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    Bologna,Italy
    Mojo magazine reports the same.
    They said these are "Mono for 2014 ears and equipments" .
     
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  21. corr64

    corr64 New Member

    Yes mono masters doesn't have the leaflet. The mastering info is on the sleeve. All my others have the leaflet, so that's a little anomaly there with your box.
     
  22. Robin L

    Robin L Musical Omnivore

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    Fresno, California
    Got "Please Please Me" yesterday, meaning I have all of the new remasters. I must be lucky as there isn't a single glitch on all 28 sides. PPM sounds a lot richer and more detailed than I recall from previous pressings, though I never heard an original Parlophone mono pressing. But I have owned all of the stereo Parlophones from the 70's, these reissues have those beat.
     
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  23. corr64

    corr64 New Member

    Yes this PPM sounds great to my ears & blows all other pressings iv'e heard away.
     
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  24. DavidFell

    DavidFell Forum Resident

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    Chicago
    What forum? I've never heard this.
     
  25. DavidFell

    DavidFell Forum Resident

    Location:
    Chicago
    I did a needle drop on this just the other day. Sounds very nice.
     
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