Beatles need remastering by Steve

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Beatlelennon65, Jan 15, 2003.

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  1. Beatlelennon65

    Beatlelennon65 Active Member Thread Starter

    The Beatles catalog is probably in the worst shape of any major artist. All of their recordings were remastered poorly over 15 years ago, and the original mono recordings are not available. Steve is obviously the first choice to do an sacd/cd hybrid remaster with both the mono and stereo versions of all applicable albums. I am afraid one of the engineers over at Abbey Road will do the remasters and make them even worse than they already are. I know it is a snowball's chance in Hell that EMI/Apple would let Steve do the remasters, but I can always dream. Anyone feel the same way?
    Rob
     
  2. Dave

    Dave Esoteric Audio Research Specialistâ„¢

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    Welcome Rob!:) More people than you can possibly imagine Rob.;)
     
  3. Jamie Tate

    Jamie Tate New Member

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    Nice to see you Rob. I'm sure almost everyone here agrees with you on this. Way to kiss some ass on your first post!:laugh: Just joking.

    Steve would bring out more music in those masters and not touch the no-noise. What else could you ask for?
     
  4. PMC7027

    PMC7027 Forum Hall Of Fame

    All we have to do in order to get Steve to remaster the catalog is follow these steps:

    (1) Raise about 50 billion dollars or so.
    (2) Purchase The Beatles tapes.
    (3) Ask Steve if he'd like to do the remastering.

    Sounds easy, doesn't it -- well I guess number 1 in the list might be a little difficult.
     
  5. Evan L

    Evan L Beatologist

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    Like I said in another thread....clone Steve and send him Abbey Road's way!

    Seriously, EMI is notoriously in-house when it comes to things like this, and Peter Mew is "in charge" of the Beatles master tapes, so....come to your own conclusion. :(
     
  6. RDK

    RDK Active Member

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    Indeed they are and indeed he is.

    Perhaps the better route would be to try to convince Apple/EMI to authorize "audiophile" versions of their mass-market remasters (should they ever come to pass). But I suppose DCC and MoFi already tried to license these in the past to no avail. I think the only way Steve may get to remaster these is if gold versions of the Beatles discs are ever made.

    :(

    Ray
     
  7. Dave

    Dave Esoteric Audio Research Specialistâ„¢

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    Ray, what about the MFSL vinyl? Mofi did in fact have the Beatles master tapes once already and they are the only company ever to get the Beatles catalogue outside of EMI.;)
     
  8. Ed Bishop

    Ed Bishop Incredibly, I'm still here

    I have to think MFSL must have tried to license for CD but was rejected by the band's people or EMI; probably both. The original albums came before digital audio was the norm, and while they did get to remaster many albums initially on vinyl for CD, they didn't get the two big fish: the Beatles and Stones. What's more, they did a Stones box but didn't get to issue any individual Lp's, as they did with the Fabs.

    You also would be hard pressed to find one person hanging here who doesn't want Steve to get his claws on those tapes and really do a job on them. Since nobody here is especially fond of YS SONG TRACK and 1, you can guess what any remasters might sound like if EMI ever gets around to them:sigh: We're basically damned if they do and already damned as they haven't. When it comes to the Fabs in this forum, lotsa vinyl talk, for good reason....:rolleyes:

    ED:cool:
     
  9. RDK

    RDK Active Member

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    What Ed said!

    :D
     
  10. lukpac

    lukpac Senior Member

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    And Vee-Jay and Swan...

    At any rate, the only reason they were able to do that was because EMI was in control - Apple had no say in matters. Today, any deal would have to involve Apple in addition to EMI/Capitol, and that really complicates matters, to say the least.
     
  11. Ed Bishop

    Ed Bishop Incredibly, I'm still here

    Translation: don't hold your breath waiting....

    ED:cool:
     
  12. Evan L

    Evan L Beatologist

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    RDK-

    Yes, you're probably correct. The odds of that are very small, due to the fact that EMI will no longer let the master tapes out of the building. We're stuck with Mew.

    (Cut to Elvis singing: "Gonna stick like glue/Yeah because we're....stuck with Mew"):laugh:
     
  13. Beatlelennon65

    Beatlelennon65 Active Member Thread Starter

    Why doesnt anyone like the YS songtrack? I think it sounds great. Nowhere Man and Baby You're a Rich Man are outstanding. For a new album that was remixed it is pretty cool. It's not like they were trying to redo the original album and keep the original sound. I have all the original albums on cd and the YS soundtrack to listen to every now and then just for comparison. If anyone here has heard the Dr. Ebbett or Millenium Remasters, then you know these albums can sound better without even going back to the masteer tapes. I just cant imagine how much better they would sound if they used original master tapes and refolded down the individual tracks. Since the Beatles used four track quite abit and folded down four tracks on to one and then four more on to another one and then used the other two, couldnt the music sound much better if we went back to the original tapes and didnt have to fold them down? Am I right or do these tapes even exist?
     
  14. Michael

    Michael I LOVE WIDE S-T-E-R-E-O!

    I love it! Especially Nowhere Man!
     
  15. Evan L

    Evan L Beatologist

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    I think, despite Mr. Mew's reputation on this forum, YSS is very groovy. I like hearing the songs they way they are. It's All Too Much & Only A Northern Song are the preferred versions as they are presented here.
     
  16. John Carsell

    John Carsell Forum Resident

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    Aw come on everyone, let's all chip in some money to cover Steve's airfare (1st class) to England and for the cost of shipping his own equipment to do the job right.

    Abbey Road can then send Mr. Mew on vacation.
     
  17. Beatlelennon65

    Beatlelennon65 Active Member Thread Starter

    I second that
     
  18. petzi

    petzi Forum Resident

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    Im my humble opinion, Steve should look for a position as mastering engineer with one of the majors... That way, Steve's capabilities would be used to the greatest possible benefit for everyone.
     
  19. musicfan37

    musicfan37 Senior Member

    Come on Steve. Like a certain ad campaign states, "Just Do it."
     
  20. Evan L

    Evan L Beatologist

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    I think before EMI would let Steve remaster the Beatles, he would actually have to be hired by the company first, due to their in-house policy.

    C'mon, EMI, send Steve his W-2's, his plane ticket, and let's get going!

    MM
     
  21. petzi

    petzi Forum Resident

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    That's what I mean :)
     
  22. John Carsell

    John Carsell Forum Resident

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    Abbey Road has had freelance engineeers since 1969 (Geoff Emerick).

    Has this policy changed?
     
  23. Evan L

    Evan L Beatologist

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    Hmmm....I think you are correct, John, but Geoff was brought in to record new stuff, not remaster old music. I think their policy is for any kind of catalog redux, to do it inhouse. Of course, it's still a good idea for them to hire Steve, anyway, don'tcha think?:thumbsup:
     
  24. Gary

    Gary Nauga Gort! Staff

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    Sure, Steve is freelancing these days! They should hire Steve, he can take his wife and have a groovy vacation in England!

    I wish..... it could be true!
     
  25. Sound

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    MFSL did release "Some Girls" and "Sticky Fingers" (not from the boxed set) as individual LPs.

    I don't think MFSL wasted much time trying to get the CD rights.(Beatles)
    No way were they (EMI) going to let someone else compete directly in the same stores with their CDs. (and a better product no less?) Not a chance.
     
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