Beatles "Pepper" Mono CD: 2009 or 2017?

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by gss, May 22, 2017.

  1. C6H12O6

    C6H12O6 Senior Member

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    Most of the tracks on the 2017 release of the mono mix has a DR number in the single digits. It's actually a pretty big difference from the 2009 release. I wish the 2009 release didn't have that "notch" filter or whatever is going on up on the high end, but it's clearly more dynamic and EQ can't be the sole reason for it, it wouldn't be enough.
     
  2. Onder

    Onder Senior Member

    Apparently, EQ can be the sole reason for the difference. See slane's test in the quote below.

     
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  3. bldg blok

    bldg blok Forum Resident

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    OK, so I have on vinyl for SPLHCB the MFSL, the LP from the BC-13 box, a mono Jpn red vinyl from 1982, and a sealed picture disc that I believe is from the 70s, and an Apple copy from that same decade. On CD I have the 1987 disc, the 2009 mono, and one that I ordered from Fab & Gear that had the original stereo mix of AHDN, Help, & Rubber Soul with live and studio takes in a personalized wallet holder from Jasrac out of Japan. The SPLHCB has the Christmas messages IIRC. I also have the 1967 Pepper Session box with the booklet, no CD. Oh, and the Bradford Exchange plate.

    In short, I'm Peppered out. I understand they were painstaking with that release of the 2014s. What I want to know is why wait till then? Like I said about the Stones in the Worst Mastered CD thread, there's only so many times I'll buy your catalog/releases.
     
  4. bherbert

    bherbert Forum Resident

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    2009. Richer mid-range. Nicer mastering.
     
  5. Pizza

    Pizza With extra pepperoni

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    Isn’t the latest master always the best? Well, isn’t it? Isn’t it??? :whistle:
     
  6. bherbert

    bherbert Forum Resident

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    Anybody still listening to the 2017 mono cd?
     
  7. Gavman

    Gavman Forum Resident

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    Bought the iTunes version of Sgt Pepper Super Deluxe. The mono mix is on that. Ok so it's not as desirable as the physical version but at £45... Like the 'mastered for itunes' sound on this version too.
     
  8. A well respected man

    A well respected man Some Mother's Son

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    Nope. I like the 2009 better. Or the 2014 LP if I'm in the mood for vinyl.
     
  9. lemonade kid

    lemonade kid Forever Changing

    I am happy to have it, the box is cool, but of course my NM original 1967 vinyl gets all the love here.
     
  10. Eobard Thawne

    Eobard Thawne Forum Resident

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    I've heard it, but aren't they the same digital file?
     
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  11. Gems-A-Bems

    Gems-A-Bems Forum Resident

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    I thought they were separate transfers.
     
  12. BuckNaked

    BuckNaked Senior Member

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    Yes, when I have the Pepper box out. When I have the Mono box out, I play that.
     
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  13. abzach

    abzach Forum Resident

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    I don't know anything about any 2017 version, were can it be found?
     
  14. Leviathan

    Leviathan Forum Resident

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    In the super deluxe Pepper box that came out in 2017.
     
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  15. abzach

    abzach Forum Resident

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    Aha, ok - thanks.
     
  16. andrewskyDE

    andrewskyDE Island Owner

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    It was a completely new tape transfer, if I remember right. But this time it was unaltered (no re-EQing or fixing sound details), a flat transfer.
     
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  17. Old Fred

    Old Fred Forum Resident

    So I got it right: the 2017 CD was a flat transfer?
     
  18. andrewskyDE

    andrewskyDE Island Owner

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    Yes, I think that was confirmed on the thread about the Sgt Pepper box set.
     
  19. Old Fred

    Old Fred Forum Resident

    Awesome. Thanks! :righton:
     
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  20. Paul P.

    Paul P. Forum Resident

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  21. zen

    zen Senior Member

    Does the 2017 version have the "random gibberish" at the end?
     
  22. Paul P.

    Paul P. Forum Resident

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    Only one loop. Basically - what they used to cut the lock groove with.

    And - before you ask - I'm not sure about the 15 kHz tone - I heard that was usually added at the cutting stage, and wasn't on the original tape.

    Cheers,
    Paul
     
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  23. zen

    zen Senior Member

    Thanks, Paul.

    Is there a CD version without it?
     
  24. Paul P.

    Paul P. Forum Resident

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    Super good question. I'm not aware of any.

    The '87 has it - the 2009 mono and stereo have it - and the 2017's do.

    The shortest version is probably the one on the 2017 mono disc, since it's only one loop.

    Cheers,
    Paul

    P.S. The tone may be on all of them as well. I was spot checking the endings of various versions on Spotify on my PS4, and the tone "aliases" weirdly on it - probably due to low bitrate Spotify on the game console.
     
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  25. Old Fred

    Old Fred Forum Resident

    FABulous. Thanks!
     

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