Billy Joel MFSL SACDs

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by afterm.ath, Mar 13, 2018.

  1. afterm.ath

    afterm.ath Let It Loose Thread Starter

    Do these SACDs sound great? Are they better than the stereo/surround single-layer SACD released back in the early 2000s? I'm planning to get The Stranger, 52nd Street, and Turnstiles on SACD but I'm not sure if I should get it.

    Side note, does a 35DP 52nd Street sound good?
  2. Lovealego

    Lovealego Forum Resident

    Danville, CA
    I thought The Stranger and Nylon Curtain were not as good as I was expecting. The rest were great. Standouts are An Innocent Man, Songs in the Attic and Greatest hits Vol I & II. Those three sound especially good.

    Turnstiles MFSL has original New York State of Mind mix. Not very good sounding at all. The remix done for Greatest Hits and all remasters of Turnstiles sounds much better.
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  3. George P

    George P Love Will Lead Us

    Do you know if the original USA CD of Turnstiles has the remix or the original mix?
  4. Lovealego

    Lovealego Forum Resident

    Danville, CA
    My old Turnstiles cd had the remix, but I believe the Japan mfr ones for USA may have had the original? Not entirely sure. I just know that the original was issued on early cd versions of Turnstiles. First time I heard it was the MFSL SACD and it was not what I was used to for that great song. It left me wanting the remix.

    Just listen to your disc. Does it have lots of hiss, and warbly piano opening? If so, its the original.

    GLUDFSSR Forum Resident

    Los Angeles, CA
    Greatest Hits sounds Great
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  6. George P

    George P Love Will Lead Us

    OK, thanks.
  7. The Greatest Hits set is great. I'd even recommend it to mild Billy Joel fans if they enjoy SACD sound.
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  8. Claus

    Claus Foodie Racer

    The Greatest Hits is the best mastering. My favorite Billy Joel by MFSL. All other MFSL‘s are between okay and poor.
  9. Bobby Morrow

    Bobby Morrow Forum Resident

    I like them all, though some are slightly better than others. Having not heard the original SACDs, I would recommend the MOFI’s unreservedly. Not least because they’ll surely be OOP pretty soon and will cost a fortune to acquire then..

    Very fond of the Glass Houses SACD especially. Also, the AF disc of Streetlife Serenade is well worth getting too.
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  10. yesstiles

    yesstiles Forum Resident

    I don't think there ever was a JPN for USA cd for "Turnstiles."
  11. Lovealego

    Lovealego Forum Resident

    Danville, CA
    I wouldn't call any BJ MFSL's poor. But yes, the Greatest Hits seems to be better than the studio albums. This was the same phenomenon with the Hall & Oates titles where the Greatest Hits sounded better than the individual albums of the same songs to me.

    Audio Fidelity did Glass Houses and 52nd Street which are as good as the MFSLs so you could get those instead. Might be more expensive though.
    Also Streetlife Serenade sounds fantastic on Audio Fidelity. I never knew this album very well until this issue and its better than I would have thought.

    I should note I have never listened to the SACD layers of these titles, only the redbook. I wonder if the closed in sound of Nylon Curtain and Stranger "open up" on the DSD layers.
  12. Instant Karma

    Instant Karma Well-Known Member

    New Jersey
    My favorite Billy Joel album is Piano Man. In my opinion, there is no better sounding version than the MFSL. I had the Japanese 32 or 35 dp release previously, and got rid of it after I heard the MFSL. I am referring to both the redbook and SACD layers.
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  13. nick99nack

    nick99nack Well-Known Member

    Statesboro, GA
    Buy them all, especially Turnstiles for the original mix of "New York State of Mind".
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  14. pdenny

    pdenny Blow up your TV

    The MFSL Stranger and 52nd Street have a "dark" sound. At first I thought it was a muffled effect but at louder volume they really blossom. That said, the Sony SACD from the early 00's is the shiznit, plus 5.1.
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  15. ShallowMemory

    ShallowMemory Classical Princess

    It's beautifully packaged too.
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  16. George P

    George P Love Will Lead Us

    I couldn't agree more! In my case though my ears got used to the sound and I don't need to play it very loud to enjoy them.
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