Black Sabbath Volume 4 - Favorite Cd Version

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Music_dude, Jun 17, 2017.

  1. Music_dude

    Music_dude Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    The ones I've heard so far are the original WB, the 86 Castle, the 2009 and the 2016 remasters. So far it's a toss up between the 86 Castle and the 2009. Truthfully, I was disappointed with the 2016 version. I find it too bright (too much high end for my taste). Any thoughts? Which are your favorites?
     
  2. DrownedGod

    DrownedGod Forum Resident

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    2016 by a mile. Too bright? Maybe check your treble knob?...
     
  3. Tim1954

    Tim1954 Forum Resident

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    2016 is too bright for me also.

    For digital, I think the SACD is best, but the 1986 is not far behind. I also like the 2009.
     
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  4. eric777

    eric777 Rock Star

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    2016 version!!!
     
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  5. yesstiles

    yesstiles Forum Resident

    Hmmm.........2016 cd bright or not bright? :nyah:
     
  6. ruben lopez

    ruben lopez Forum Resident

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    I have the Japan SHM cd,there is a thread here about it,search thread function is your friend.
     
  7. ruben lopez

    ruben lopez Forum Resident

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  8. Tim1954

    Tim1954 Forum Resident

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    IMO, the only "Japan SHM" worth discussing is the SHM-SACD. This was made from a UK master tape at FX Copyroom in London.

    The standard redbook Japanese SHM discs are just sourced from UK Castle/Sanctuary digital masters.
     
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  9. Mike Campbell

    Mike Campbell Forum Resident

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    2016 SHM SACD by 100 Gazillion miles. Too bright? NOTTTTTT.
     
  10. InStepWithTheStars

    InStepWithTheStars It's a miracle, let it alter you

    I came to the 2016 remaster from the original WB CD. The 2016 might be bright if you've never heard the WB, but coming from the WB the 2016 is like a fluffy auditory pillow. If you turn up the WB loud enough you can probably weaponize it and use it to commit at the very least grievous bodily harm. Maybe I just got a bad copy (don't know why that would be though)... I've only ever sold eight CDs because of godawful sound, and that was one of them.
     
  11. Mike Campbell

    Mike Campbell Forum Resident

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    I've thrown bad sounding issues in the trash...If they are not good enough to listen to, why have them take up space? I have no time for crappy sound....especially if they have had the ability and means to do it right in the first place. can't tell you how many have been flung into the garbage. Sab has never been one of them though...
     
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  12. Rne

    Rne Sufferin' succotash!

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  13. InStepWithTheStars

    InStepWithTheStars It's a miracle, let it alter you

    I don't have it in me to throw out a CD, no matter how awful sounding. Hell, I've got one by my favorite band that skips during a certain part of the last song and I've come up with seven reasons to rationalize hanging on to it (stupidest one: I bought it from a friend of the artist). And like I said, I've only ever sold eight CDs because of horrible sound... that takes a lot for me.
     
  14. Mike Campbell

    Mike Campbell Forum Resident

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    I hear ya.....I'm maybe a bit more nuts than you....I'm sure I am.
     
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  15. InStepWithTheStars

    InStepWithTheStars It's a miracle, let it alter you

    We're all nuts in our own special ways.
     
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  16. Mike Campbell

    Mike Campbell Forum Resident

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    Oh so true.
     
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  17. Mike Campbell

    Mike Campbell Forum Resident

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    One I tossed out was a boot of a FREE concert, where no one in their right mind would have let KOSSOFF onto the stage.....couldn't believe he was up there...Absolutely ridiculous.....Not kidding, it was like someone handed his les paul to a 9 year old that had never ever touched a guitar....It was shocking....into the garbage it went....Rodgers sounded a bit out of it also. Worst Guitar playing I have ever heard.....sad coming from a virtuoso...
     
  18. InStepWithTheStars

    InStepWithTheStars It's a miracle, let it alter you

    I could send you my demos... that concert will no longer be the worst guitar playing you've ever heard. Won't help the concert sound any better and/or recover it from the garbage, though. I don't think you're looking for any of those things to happen though. :nyah:
     
  19. Mike Campbell

    Mike Campbell Forum Resident

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    Unless you have no arms, no legs, and are hammered, you're better than this thing I tossed....it was almost unreal...
     
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  20. Tim1954

    Tim1954 Forum Resident

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    Nobody I've ever seen has said the SHM-SACD is too bright, but it came out in 2012.
     
  21. Mike Campbell

    Mike Campbell Forum Resident

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    NO matter....still the best sounding version I have heard....but we all hear things differently.
     
  22. Tim1954

    Tim1954 Forum Resident

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    The 2016 is definitely better than the poorly mastered Warner CD, IMO.

    But yeah, that ain't saying much.
     
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  23. InStepWithTheStars

    InStepWithTheStars It's a miracle, let it alter you

    I've never heard any other versions, I personally like the sound of the 2016. I don't find it bright compared to lots of other CDs (not just the awful WB)... but then again, I have a higher tolerance for brightness than most people here.
     
  24. Vinyl Fan 1973

    Vinyl Fan 1973 "They're like soup, they're like....nothing bad"

    The Japan SHM based off the Pearce remaster is all I ever need, that is until they reissue the SACD. I need to hear that. Between the Rhino vinyl reissue and SHM, I'm good.
     
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  25. lapepalz

    lapepalz Well-Known Member

    I prefer SACD, on CD Castle 1er edition.
     

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