Bob Dylan - Bootleg Series Vol. XII "The Cutting Edge"*

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  1. HominyRhodes

    HominyRhodes Forum Resident

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    Shame, shame, shame, yep.
     
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  2. Thelonious_Cube

    Thelonious_Cube Epistrophe of Light

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    I believe that's one of those "fake swearing" things like "Gosh darn!", "Fudge!" and "fiddlesticks" (or "horse feathers" for you swordfish fans), so it's "really" "d*amn h*ell" - the technical term is a "minced oath"

    Whether the song character's name comes from this expression or is mere coincidence, I have not gathered
     
  3. HominyRhodes

    HominyRhodes Forum Resident

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    W.C. Fields: "GODfrey DANiel" and "MOTHERofPEARL"
     
  4. Richard--W

    Richard--W Forum Resident

    Thanks for keeping the countdown going.

    Fortunately, I bought an 18-disc set before "CURRENTLY NOT AVAILABLE" went up. One minute there were 700 copies, the next minute, "CURRENTLY NOT AVAILABLE." As in not available, currently. That "currently" suggests a temporary delay. Surely they didn't sell 700 copies in the duration of a minute. Perhaps a glitch of some kind. I wouldn't be surprised if a quantity go back up for sale Monday morning.

    A shipping label has been printed and my set goes out Monday for a Tuesday delivery.

    Meanwhile I'll get somebody who understands mp3's to download them and reassemble them seamlessly with no gaps between tracks and no hollow sucking noise during the music. I hate mp3's and I want it done properly. I know I'll keep the Spring tour of the U.K. on CD-R's but whether or not I keep the rest depends on how they sound compared to the boots, all of which I own. Really disappointed that there isn't a cleaned up professional recording of the BBC concert, which I consider Dylan's finest hour as an acoustic performer, and the complete, uninterrupted mono board tape of the Newport Folk Festival, in which the audience reaction is discernible. My old reel to reel remains the best copy of that tape I've heard.
     
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  5. Richard--W

    Richard--W Forum Resident

    no distortion in the vocals?
     
  6. One thing that's striking about Dylan's live shows throughout this period is how long they were. At a time when the Beatles and Stones were often on and off stage within a half hour, Dylan's shows would frequently go to three times that length. Of course, the songs themselves were typically much lengthier, but that would seem like justification to play fewer of them rather than more.

    I wonder if this was just because he enjoyed performing that much, or simply wanted to make sure his audience got their money's worth?
     
  7. HominyRhodes

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    An indispensable double LP for me since 1980, along with Tough Songs (both on the high quality Phoenix label from *Australia* :cool: ):

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    Side one:
    Maggie's farm
    Like a rolling stone
    It takes a lot to laugh
    It's all over now, Baby Blue
    Mr. Tambourine Man
    Side two:
    Hurricane
    Oh sister
    Simple twist of fate
    Tangled up in blue*
    Side three:
    Lilly, Rosemary, and the Jack of hearts
    If you see her say hello
    You're a big girl now
    Idiot wind
    Side four:
    Rita May
    People get ready
    Never let me go
    Isis
    It ain't me, babe
     
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  8. shepherdfan

    shepherdfan Western European Socialist Music Lover

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    I spoke to another person at MusicToday concerning the disc replacements. She told me that all the replacement requests have now definitely been sent up to Sony and that they will eventually arrive.
     
  9. Richard--W

    Richard--W Forum Resident

    I think it was both. As weird and controversial as he was, he did give the audience more time and more substance than any other act.

    His first acoustic set during the tour with the Hawks lasted longer at 45 minutes to an hour than any other act, too. By the time he came out for the second set with the Hawks, the audience had already got their money's worth by the standards of the day.
     
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  10. Richard--W

    Richard--W Forum Resident

    Oh, I remember this boot. One of my first. Mine had a different cover. One of the best boots.
     
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  11. LonesomeDayBlues

    LonesomeDayBlues Forum Resident

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    Bonus mp3 tracks (50th Anniversary Collection - 1965) have the Cutting Edge cover art embedded in each file. While this is okay, on the sony order page where I downloaded them, next to the item it had this photo:

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    Does anyone have this in better quality?
     
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  12. EddieMann

    EddieMann I used to be a king...

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    My loving and tolerant wife has downloaded the live concerts for me and I am really enjoying them tonight. Now we (she) needs to put them in folders, and then we (she) can burn them to disc. :hugs:
     
  13. midnightcowboy

    midnightcowboy Well-Known Member

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    Is it just me or is anyone else finding the It's Alright Ma style acoustic version of Tombstone Blues extremely strange? I really like it but it's so weird hearing this song done in that particular style!
     
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  14. midnightcowboy

    midnightcowboy Well-Known Member

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    I agree, the first thing I did was skip through to check sound quality on those concerts. Gutted that there's no real upgrade from bootlegs for these shows. Having said that I'm really glad to have all of those UK spring tour shows in perfect sound quality, never thought I'd see them released in their entirety. Love the blind drunk version of She Belongs To Me from the Savoy Hotel, and I'm really glad that Phantom Engineer from Newport has finally seen the light of day officially.
     
  15. rihajarvi

    rihajarvi Forum Resident

    threw this together using one of the previous installments as a source

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  16. matt79rome89

    matt79rome89 Forum Resident

    Perfect. Compliments the others nicely. Thanks
     
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  17. HominyRhodes

    HominyRhodes Forum Resident

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    Yeah, it's a decent mix, and they left in the part at the very end where Bob says to the band, "Let's go man, that's all." :)
     
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  18. fangedesire

    fangedesire Well-Known Member

    Anyone here live near Stanford U? You can walk right in and listen to it (or at least get the setlist) -
    http://library.stanford.edu/blogs/d...area-bob-dylan-concerts-allen-ginsberg-papers
     
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  19. matt79rome89

    matt79rome89 Forum Resident

    Yes, glass half full, it's hard to complain about getting those early acoustic shows for "free". It's nice they included the 5 Don't Look Back bonus tracks on their respective concerts too.

    Glass half empty: wish they would've thrown in the 1966 copyright stuff to put a nice bow on "1965-1966"
     
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  20. asdf35

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    I wonder if they literally mean Ginsberg taped San Francisco (as opposed to Berkeley) as well as San Jose.
    I thought he taped Berkeley, but not totally sure. If he did Berkeley, he did a good job!

    That jpeg image on the page is impossible to read...
     
  21. revolution_vanderbilt

    revolution_vanderbilt Forum Resident

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    Well, I'll be damned. I trashed the email early in the day (I thought it was another holiday shopping email, of which I'm getting oh so many of as of late), so it's a good thing I came here! It's been pulled from the trash, cleaned off a bit, and looks just fine.

    It's hardly a surprise, but it's VERY welcome.

    Just an interesting aside, but one of these tracks from the copyright set had actually seen release before: To Ramona (credited as Sheffield, April 30th) was released on Live 1961-2000, and then later on iTunes.

    Now, time to download this beast!
     
  22. 926am

    926am Senior Member

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    I still have not received this email. Has anyone else not received it?
     
  23. Bill

    Bill Senior Member

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    Speaking of emails, I just got one (at 1:10 a.m.) from Best
    Buy unilaterally canceling my order for the $249.99 version of the Cutting Edge described on its website as the full 18 CD set. The reason for the cancellation given is that it's "back ordered." This is after I emailed Best Buy to confirm that the listed set was not vapor ware. The response assured me that it was real, that my copy was sitting in a warehouse, that I would, in fact, receive it by December 18 and that it was, as listed, the full 18 CD set. On a positive note, Best Buy assures me that my money will be refunded. There's a special place in hell for that organization, whose inevitable demise cannot come too soon.
     
  24. Jbeck57143

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    Here is a summary of the 50th Anniversary Collection, indicating what's new and what's old, posted by lowgen at expectingrain:
    http://expectingrain.com/discussions/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=86120

    A set summary:

    OLD
    February 17, 1965 Les Crane Show ABC-TV Network
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    OLD
    March 27, 1965 Santa Monica Civic Auditorium
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    NEW (unrelated to 6-song aud)
    April 30, 1965 Sheffield City Hall
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    NEW
    May 1, 1965 Liverpool Odeon
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    NEW
    May 2, 1965 Leicester De Montfort Hall
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    NEW
    May 5, 1965 Birmingham Town Hall
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    NEW
    May 6, 1965 Newcastle City Hall
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    NEW Seems to be same as but much better than what I had, but echo added here.
    May 7, 1965 Manchester Free Trade Hall
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    OLD From DLB
    May 8, 1965 London Savoy Hotel
    She Belongs To Me
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    OLD (runs v slow here)
    May 9, 1965 London Royal Albert Hall
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    NEW
    May 10, 1965 London Royal Albert Hall
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    OLD
    June 1, 1965 London BBC Studios
    This is the newer "Rediffusion" recording which is
    wider spectrum than the old "TV room pickup", although
    dirty-sounding in comprison. This probably has the same
    various arbitrary speed adjustments.
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    NEW
    July 24, 1965 Newport Contemporary Songs Workshop
    Tombstone Blues same performance as the short German TV Clip

    OLD
    July 25, 1965 Newport
    It Takes A Lot To Laugh, It Takes A Train To Cry was missing
    from "OtherSideOfTheMirror" but circulated in good quality.
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    OLD
    August 28, 1965 Forest Hills Tennis Stadium
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    OLD made worse by strange compression
    September 3, 1965 Los Angeles Hollywood Bowl
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    OLD This is Chicago 651126, not "Boston".
    Boston attribution appeared on bootleg "Give The Anarchist
    A Cigarette")
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    OLD
    October 30, 1965 Hartford Bushnell Memorial Hall
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    OLD
    December 4, 1965 Berkeley Community Theatre
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    'OLD' = same as, from, or worse than my own carefully
    selected collection.
     
  25. onlyconnect

    onlyconnect The prose and the passion

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    Ah, I used a US number. Probably 434-205-7049. Used Skype so not too expensive.

    Tim
     

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