Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Mark, Mar 25, 2012.
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Stateless, in terms of slicker productions, it doesn't get much slicker and sterile than the past decade worth of albums (not counting the Seeger Sessions). I get that Tunnel Of Love, Human Touch, and Lucky Town had that sugar-coated pop production feel, but the material was still melodic and a lot of the material still offered depth.
That said, I do agree that BITUSA could have been significantly stronger with the inclusion of some of the stellar outtakes left on the cutting room floor. Frankly, the album could have been a stronger "River" type of album with a mixture of rockers, ballads, and social/emotional themes. Landau played a key role in the album sequencing/track selection. He wanted his client to explode into mainstream pop culture and acquire the riches and power that came with it. It worked. We got a very good album. It could have been great.
Will Michelle Moore follow the tour up to the Northeast, or is she out as Dave Marsh said back at the Apollo? Was she even in Tampa?
I'm not sure how you can say actually say it "appears to be substandard." It's gotten mostly positive reviews from critics.
Now, you might not like the album when you hear it. And that's fine. But the only way you can say it "appears substandard" is by reading only negative criticism and ignoring the positive. I'm not sure what you're basing your comment on other than one poster who didn't like it.
Or maybe you just trust Gregory Earl's opinion that much.
The confusing part to me about the lead single is that with the lyrics or idea and tone of them and the basic musical track of the song, that together there is that 'driving' aspect of the 'fist-pumping' anthem, and yet it's clear that with the inclusion of the instrumentation that is used, a lighter, more Pop arrangement is the result, which makes the experience listening to it, for me, a bit of a conundrum. For the other songs, I find that approach is one of the more interesting and successful aspects of the album, and it works for me, in Easy Money and Shackled and Drawn (not that they're necessarily Pop Music). Even in Jack Of All Trades, an apt entendre of a song title re: the theme of the subject matter that runs through the album, and that song being one of the album highlights for me, the "If I had a gun" line seems to run counter to the musical feel, imo, which in its case, makes it more effective, imo. I like the melting pot of influences included in many of the song arrangerments throughout the album. By and large, I didn't like the Seeger Sessions cd because I didn't feel like the performances sounded like something I liked, though I really enjoyed the live cd's and that tour and think quite highly of them and it. Per WB, the title track, a song that I like, I can't deal with the vocal. Not my favorite kind of Bruce singing, imo, because he doesn't sound to me like he's either 'singing' in 'good voice' or 'in time' at least as in how I think or feel about those things, fwtw, and it falls flat for me. Ymwv. Other than the title track (a song I like, a performance I don't) and the lead single (which I neither love nor hate), it's an album I enjoy and think about. Land of Hope and Dreams, Jack Of All Trades, and This Depression are all quality songwriting, imo, and I think We Are Alive is one of the more interesitng pieces he's recorded. Rocky Ground comes close to We Are Alive for me in that way too. You've Got It sounds and seems to me like something that isn't far removed from some of the stuff on The Promise cd's, and I like that.
She was in Tampa, and I expect she'll make the entire tour
OT but I just watched Live in Dublin for the first time a week ago. Absolutely gorgeous arrangements & musicianship & they all looked like they were having a blast. Quickly becoming my all time favorite live blu-ray/DVD.
She's The One, Jackson Cage, and Thundercrack in Boston so far tonight, about halfway through. Some setlist shakeups I can get into!
I was thinking a few nights ago about River songs and how I'd like to hear Jackson Cage. Thundercrack, cool beans!
March 26, 2012
1. We Take Care of Our Own
2. Wrecking Ball (w/ crowd booing "Giants")
4. Death to My Hometown
5. My City of Ruins
7. Jack of All Trades
8. JACKSON CAGE
9. SHE'S THE ONE
10. Easy Money
11. Waiting On A Sunny Day
12. The Promised Land
13. Apollo Medley
14. American Skin (41 Shots)
15. Lonesome Day
16. The Rising
17. We Are Alive
18. Thunder Road
19. Rocky Ground (w/ Michelle Moore)
20. Land of Hope and Dreams
21. Born to Run
22. Dancing in the Dark
23. RAISE YOUR HAND (w/ Peter Wolf)
24. Tenth Avenue Freeze-Out
Tour premieres in CAPS.
Looks like a great night on paper. Thundercrack is awesome.....was so happy to get this at MSG last year. Still chasing Jackson Cage, which is near the top of my wanted list. But I still don't want to see 41 Shots in place of Shackled & Drawn.
Looking like a great tour. Heaps of new stuff and some early gems being tossed around (E Street Shuffle, Thundercrack, Does This Bus Stop, etc.).
Great great show tonight. Thundercrack was killer, as was She's The One. Jackson Cage was a great surprise. 41 Shots was sad in that it is so timely. Soulful show, with great pacing. Left you uplifted, like what going to church (or wherever) should be.
Good show. The crowd booed when the Giants were mentioned in Wrecking Ball, and Bruce started laughing. The show is a nice tribute to Clarence. His son is doing a great job. I wonder if he will ever take on Jungleland.
I'm still disappointed with the set list.... Too many bathroom songs for me.
I think you mean Clarence's nephew, Jake, on sax? Although I understand his young(est?) son did join the band on stage during "Tenth Avenue Freeze Out" in Tampa the other night.
My article on Bruce Springsteen vinyl and compact disc collectibles from the Eighties:
Thundercrack! That must have been epic.
Wowee, "Thundercrack" and "Jackson Cage." I knew as soon as it became impossible for me to go to Detroit, Bruce would start breaking out the world-class numbers. Damn, damn, damn.
Marshall, nice website on some great collectibles from the '80s. One of my favorites is on there, the Live Collection I CD from Japan. Those two extra songs ("Incident" and "For You") are both stellar and essential Bruce. It was (and still is) worth the import cost of that CD just for those two songs.
Just one small note though, I believe that version of "Fire" was taken from the second show at Winterland, not the first show (which was the broadcast). Yeah, I know, it's a minor detail. But it does mean the Bruce camp does have both Winterland shows recorded professionally somewhere deep down in the vaults. Maybe one day we'll hear them.
I'd imagine Philly's in for a treat if he already busted out Thundercrack for Boston. Aside from just Streets of Philadelphia.
Jungleland for Jersey, I think. First one without Clarence.
I love the set changes. I hope he keeps doing it on every show and a few soundboards show up
A quick aside, I wanted to let people know that the new Rolling Stone has an article in it on Jimmy Iovine in it as well as a small article on the tour. I just got it in the mail today.
For people in Atlantic Canada, the unconfirmed date for Moncton is Aug 26th.
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