Buffalo Springfield debut released 50 years ago today

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  1. JoeRockhead

    JoeRockhead Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    Buffalo Springfield s/t debut released Dec. 5, 1966 - 50 years ago today!

    Thoughts on this landmark LP? I know it wasn't a big hit at the time of its release but just thinking of the careers that were launched with this release is pretty impressive.

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  2. Man at C&A

    Man at C&A Forum Resident

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    Badly produced but still a superb album. My favourite Buffalo Springfield LP and one of my favourites by anyone. I have an original mono UK pressing that lists For What It's Worth on the sleeve & label but plays Baby Don't Scold Me.

    Favourite tracks:
    Flying On The Ground Is Wrong
    Pay The Price
    Do I Have To Come Right Out and Say It?

    but I love them all.
     
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  3. jwb1231970

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  4. jwb1231970

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    Terribly produced and engineered and mastered, some good songs but not really a whole lot, Neil's acoustic solo version of Flying on the Ground is much better
     
  5. SJB

    SJB Beloved Parasitic Nuisance

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    Thanks for the heads-up on the anniversary. I may have to spin some BS later. (That reads differently from how I'd imagined it...)

    Some great stuff on the first album, but my favorites ("Bluebird," "Rock and Roll Woman") are on "...Again." I don't know if we'll see any new archival material from the band, but I'm glad for what we've got.

    One of my big musical "what-ifs" is: what if Stills had kept a lid on his ego and Young had resisted the urge to quit the band repeatedly on the cusp of career milestones like the Tonight Show and Monterey Pop? I was hoping to see at least the rump version of the band on tour a few years back, but they imploded (again) before they came anywhere near me. Meanwhile, in a parallel universe, people are posting on this forum about how Buffalo Springfield needs to call it a day, and they should have quit back in '68 and taken up Crosby's offer - but then the world would have been deprived of a couple of stellar albums by Crosby, Cass, and Nash.
     
  6. Man at C&A

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    I don't know, I do love the Neil live acoustic version though. I know some of the songs on the Buffalo Springfield LP are not masterpieces but I really enjoy them and it's the only Buffalo Springfield LP where they sound like a band.
     
  7. varispeed

    varispeed what if?

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    And then I first saw them play for the first time three months later. Fifty years..... no way. Isn't it Dec 5 1967 right now? That's only a year.
     
  8. Sneaky Pete

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    Are you trying to make me feel old?

    A great album by a great band, that launched some of the most celebrated musicians of the 1970's. It is often said of such creative collaborations that "the whole is greater than the some of its parts" but with Buffalo Springfield the reverse seems true. Individually the members attained even greater musical and financial success than they did as a band.
     
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  9. Vinyl Socks

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    IMO, I couldn't fathom any more archival material than the generous amount they gave in the Buffalo Springfield box set...which does, sadly, lack the mono mix of BSA.
     
  10. Jackson

    Jackson Forum Resident

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    What a band ''Mr.Soul, Bluebird, Kind Woman, Broken Arrow, I Am A Child'' to name just a few favorites. I still prefer to listen to any BS over anything the individual members went on to do, with the exception of the COUCH album.
     
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  11. SJB

    SJB Beloved Parasitic Nuisance

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    Well, there's the long version of "Bluebird." And the Monterey concert. I'd also like the stereo mix of "Baby Don't Scold Me."
     
  12. Raunchnroll

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    Its a solid, timeless album, like grilled steak is to food. About as tasty too. Always a good seller. I greatly prefer the mono mix. I also prefer the original track listing over the 2nd one. It just flows better.
     
  13. drasil

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    this is a great lyric, Stills' tongue firmly in cheek:

    I don't tell no tales about no hot dusty roads
    I'm a city boy, and I stay at home
    I make no excuses, I just don't want to roam,
    and I don't like being alone

    the whole album is brilliant. I'm not sure why some folks upthread dislike the production. it just sounds like 1966 to me, and I love it. same with the original version of 'flying on the ground' with Furay singing lead. I know the classic rock listener tendency is to gravitate towards again in the band's catalogue--my dad feels the same way--but I've probably listened to the debut (and definitely to last time around) more often.

    I think I like literally every note the springfield committed to tape, but the two songs above, 'out of my mind,' 'Clancy,' and 'do I have to come right out and say it' are high up on that list, and they're all right here.

    I'm going to break the mono version out tonight. it's been a couple years.
     
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  14. Holy Diver

    Holy Diver Member Of The Midnight Society

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    I only know Sit Down, I Think I Love You from the debut, but it's a great one.
     
  15. WilliamWes

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    There's STILL something happenin' here
    What it is ain't exactly clear...
    :shrug:
     
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  16. MYKE

    MYKE My Dog Sam Eats Purple Flowers

    I cherish both of my mono copies, one of each tracklisting.
     
  17. notesofachord

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    Probably one of the top 10 LPs from '66, which is impressive.
     
  18. Sax-son

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    I have both the mono and stereo versions. One of my all time favorites of my collection. I don't know why folks give it a bad rap for it's production and engineering. It always sounded good to me. It's a 50 year old record created back in the day when they considered rock and roll fast food music. Who knew it would become the rock classic that it is today.
     
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  19. WilliamWes

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    We'll all eat a bison burger in Buffalo Springfield's honor. :) Yes, I agree it's a solid album and it has early forays into country rock that almost no one else was doing at the time.
     
  20. WayOutWardell

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    Interesting, too that 'For What It's Worth' was recorded 50 years ago today!
     
  21. Man at C&A

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    I do like the sound of it a lot. When I said it was badly produced I was thinking more of the stereo mix. The mono is fine. Compared to records by The Byrds, Dylan, Beach Boys and Beatles released the same year the production does sound thin and flawed, but I like it. It makes it an unusual sounding record and that usually appeals to me. I forgot to put Out of My Mind in my favourites. Great track.

    One thing about the Buffalo Springfield debut, as wonderful as the record is, the cover is abysmal!
     
  22. Man at C&A

    Man at C&A Forum Resident

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    The original track listing is great, but I don't think Go and Say Goodbye sounds right as an opener. I don't understand why they had to delete a good track, rather than just add For What It's Worth as the opener and leave the rest as it was. It's a short LP anyway.
     
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  23. Man at C&A

    Man at C&A Forum Resident

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    I've just thought of something. I hope my UK mono isn't a fold down mix. Does anybody here know?
     
  24. Grant

    Grant A Musical Free-Spirit

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    You never heard "For What It's Worth"??? It's a classic single!

    I think the band needed some serious direction on this album because they sure sound lost.
     
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  25. Holy Diver

    Holy Diver Member Of The Midnight Society

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    Sure, but it wasn't added until the reissue. It's not on the original album. Great song, though.
     

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