Check out my new Grundig Console

Discussion in 'Audio Hardware' started by kippy, Jul 24, 2015.

  1. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

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    CT, USA
    You should know. Whatever happened to Telefunken as a company?
     
  2. Baron Von Talbot

    Baron Von Talbot Well-Known Member

    Telefunken was sold and starts with new line of low budget HiFi gear...
     
  3. P2CH

    P2CH Well-Known Member

    I looked high and low for speaker grill cloth like that for my new Heresy's. I ended up finding something from a guitar amp line of cloth but not what I really wanted. I wanted that basket weave style.
     
  4. McLover

    McLover Forum Resident

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    Telefunken quit making consumer electronics after incurring quite a few years of losses. AEG owned Telefunken. Telefunken is back, but making recording studio gear.
     
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  5. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

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    CT, USA
    There are still a lot of NOS Telefunken vacuum tubes floating around for those who love tube amps and I have heard those tubes are excellent ...
     
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  6. PhilBiker

    PhilBiker sh.tv member number 666

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    I finally got the Grundig console set up tonight and what the eff - the effer effing works! Picks up my local classic rock station like a son-of-a-bitch and sounds freaking GREAT!!!! I sprayed some contact cleaner into the volume and turned it up and down just like you would to clean any potentiometer and it cleaned up just fine. It came with a spare needle that looks like this under my digital microscope:

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    I just have to figure out how to install the damn thing. I pulled out the slug that was in there; it was a needle assembly with no cantilever or stylus. This stylus was in a box in the unit. Looks like both the 78 and 45/33 sides are ready for action!

    Pictures and video will have to wait until I declare victory......

    ....I am very concerned that the tape and phono inputs share a jack and selection button......
     
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  7. The FRiNgE

    The FRiNgE Forum Resident

    Tripower, that's a nice console. So many have been chopped up to sell the components, not many are left! The Dual 1009 is the perfect drop in to replace the record eating Grundig changer. I believe the tube amp only accepts a ceramic cart tho... so for use of a vintage Empire, Shure or Pickering magnetic cartridge, you'd need to connect a phono pre-amp to the turntable. These consoles are known for their excellent sound!
     
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  8. The FRiNgE

    The FRiNgE Forum Resident

    Hey Biker, Ideally a tech would power up on a variac, which may prevent an old capacitor from failing on powerup. Otherwise just visually inspect before powerup, look for power cable issues, bad insulation, etc. Check all visible internal wiring, (what you can see) and check the fuse. If there is a direct short, chances are the fuse will blow. Be ready to pull the plug for any reason. If you see any sign of brown or black gunk around the transformer, or capacitor, (physical cap leakage) or anywhere on the circuit board, do not power up. To do so could take out other components, and may not blow the fuse. Many vintage units that produce sound, will not be operating to spec. So, even if working, it is advisable to have a tech check it out, and replace any marginal or electrically leaking caps.
     
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  9. PhilBiker

    PhilBiker sh.tv member number 666

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    Will keep under advisement. Thank you.

    My biggest concern is that the tape and turntable share an input which implies very strongly to me that there is a crappy ceramic cartrtidge behind this needle.
     
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  10. 389 Tripower

    389 Tripower Forum Resident

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    Moline, IL USA
    Thanks Fringe!
    Yup - Did that.. :righton: designed for ceramic carts. Made a power tap from the 120v wiring under the turntable, for a small pre-amp. Running M44 series cart with 7's & G' styli depending upon records best suited for. I got that console for $10 Canadian at a thrift shop in Saskatchewan when training for my current employer back in '95. It had no record player in it - just the hole.

    I bought it because I thought it was cool, and we had no music in our apartment. My roommate laughed and said 'What are we going to do with that POS?"
    After a little work with it - should have seen his face after hearing how good his head-banging CD's sounded through the phono/aux input!!
     
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  11. PhilBiker

    PhilBiker sh.tv member number 666

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    Cross posted with the "show your room" thread. Here it is in all its glory. The tape input works perfectly for the DVD/SACD player so I don't think I'm even going to bother trying to get the turntable to work or wiring the whole house audio here. It's just fine as it is for now.

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    Pretty but non-functional:
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  12. Fedot L

    Fedot L Forum Resident

    Please:

    Never play your critically important high quality vinyl records on “changers”.

    To play critically important high quality vinyl records, use only TTs with tonearms having tracking force (vertical stylus force, stylus pressure, tracking weight etc.) 1.2…2.5 g (1,2 …2,5g if you like) adjustment and antiskating adjustment tools.

    For any USED TT bought to play critically important high quality vinyl records (the conditions, see above), you must buy and install at least a NEW stylus (strictly for the cartridge model mounted on the tonearm), and if no longer available, a NEW cartridge with 1.2…2.5 g (1,2…2,5g if you like) tracking force.

    And, before the first use, carefully adjust the vertical position of the stylus (seen from the front), recommended tracking force and antiskating.
     
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  13. PhilBiker

    PhilBiker sh.tv member number 666

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    Yup. That's part of the reason I'm not going to bother fixing the changer in my Grundig. I would only have a handful of old records that I would even want to play on it even in the best of circumstances. Copies of Herb Alpert records from the 60s from thrift stores would get old. Would be nice for Christmas Dinner though to throw on some old Firestone Christmas albums on the changer while we eat dinner. If I was able to get it to work that would have been my plan.

    And I do have a stylus gauge and digital microscope. I would know the tracking force.

    P.S. - don't look at people's videos of consoles on YouTube. You'll cry.
     
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  14. doctor fuse

    doctor fuse Well-Known Member

    The Dual 1009 has a decent tonearm, capable of tracking at 0.5 g. A breakthrough for changers! And probably a safe changer for playing valuable vinyl.
     
  15. 389 Tripower

    389 Tripower Forum Resident

    Location:
    Moline, IL USA
    Yup! It's very smooth at dropping records and the tonearm sets down nice and easy, as compared to most changers of that era. I would love to have a 1019 too.
    I don't normally stack LP's, but I suppose I could. I do stack 45's for hours at a time sometimes. The 1009 will run all day long.
     
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  16. jamesmaya

    jamesmaya Forum Resident

    Location:
    Mudwest, CA
    The first audio system I grew up with in the 60s was a Grundig console and R2R tape deck. Sorry for the blurry image but it’s a scan of a photo taken in 1960. Brownie points if you can make out the image on the tv screen (I can’t).
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    And here’s the ol’ Grundig today....
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  17. EddieMann

    EddieMann I used to be a king...

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    Geneva, IL. USA.
    I love my Grundig!

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  18. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

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    Where is the R2R?
     
  19. action pact

    action pact Forum Resident

    EVERYTHING in the 1960 photo is AWESOME.
     
  20. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

    Location:
    CT, USA
    Made in West Germany! :righton:
     
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  21. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

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    CT, USA
    The Telefunken stereo console I inherited from my late father ...

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  22. jamesmaya

    jamesmaya Forum Resident

    Location:
    Mudwest, CA
    :thumbsup: Wow, is that the original console?
     
  23. jamesmaya

    jamesmaya Forum Resident

    Location:
    Mudwest, CA
    :thumbsup: Have never seen that model. Very cool!
     
  24. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

    Location:
    CT, USA
    It is pint size compared with the Grundig ...
     
  25. jamesmaya

    jamesmaya Forum Resident

    Location:
    Mudwest, CA
    Just to the right of the console. That two-tone thing that looks like a suitcase.
     

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