Classic Records label

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  1. lerun

    lerun Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    Malaysia
    Do all the 180gm LP issued by Classic Records have the statement printed at the back of album cover which state "Manufactured and Distributed by Classic Records"?

    So far my copy of the following has that statement:

    Willie Neslon - Stardust
    Carole King - Tapestry
    Burt Burcharach - Casino Royale
    Ry Cooder - Buena Vista Social Club


    But these don't have:

    Harry Belafonte - At Carnegie Hall
    Dave Brubeck - Time Out

    Are these 'bootlegs'? I am concerned.

    Appreciate comments, thanks
     
  2. Todd Fredericks

    Todd Fredericks Senior Member

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    A New Yorker
    Some of mine do, some do not. Classic Records attempts to replicate the original "look" of the record. I suspect on some of their issues they legally have to put that info there and other's they don't. I'm only guessing of course...

    Todd

    P.S. I don't think you have Bootlegs. I can't imagine anyone bootlegging any Classic Records product??
     
  3. Tullman

    Tullman Senior Member

    Location:
    Boston MA
    Some of mine do not say classic records either. I purchased all of my classic records from a reputable dealer. I am certain they are not bootlegs.
     
  4. Sckott

    Sckott Hand Tighten Only.

    Location:
    South Plymouth, Ma
    No. Most every record pressed has the mark of Bernie in the runoff. No, it's kinda silly to bootleg the CR product. Not cost effective either.
     
  5. Todd Fredericks

    Todd Fredericks Senior Member

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    Bootleggers would most likely have to charge $60-80 a copy to make a profit. Just beware of the Sundazed bootleged LP's floating around out there...


    Todd
     
  6. Stax Fan

    Stax Fan Forum Resident

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    Hmmm...there's Sundazed bootlegs around? What's the scoop?
     
  7. Todd Fredericks

    Todd Fredericks Senior Member

    Location:
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    Arin, I was joking. Why the heck would anyone spend all the time and money to bootleg these labels and pass them off as "reissues"? I would think someone would rather bootleg a copy of the originals? Let's do the math.

    Classic Records Bootleg of BN Mono 'Candy' = $25-30

    Blue Note Bootleg of "original" Mono 'Candy = $25-30 (plus several other 0's)

    Todd
     
  8. Sckott

    Sckott Hand Tighten Only.

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    Hillarious. Even more of a label NOT worth bootlegging, Sundazed! No money in that! It would COST someone 3X the money to bootleg a Sundazed product.

    Funny also, some Dylan fans have ripped some of the MONO lps to CD, and posted them on the Internet. Maybe someone's selling CDs of those rips for 4X the price? S-s-s-stupid.

    Actually, the way things go now, there's no money in bootlegging anything but DVD/VCD format movies, and even that is small. Most people are using their computers to scrap up stuff they want for almost nothing. The recording industry is having a hard time trying to sell product at all these days.
     
  9. Stax Fan

    Stax Fan Forum Resident

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    God...I'm so gullible sometimes!
     
  10. Stax Fan

    Stax Fan Forum Resident

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    You know, the Grateful Dead LPs "Wake Of The Flood" and "Blues For Allah" were heavily bootlegged, though. Those were standard price LPs!
     
  11. lerun

    lerun Forum Resident Thread Starter

    Location:
    Malaysia
    Hi,

    Thank you for all the feedbacks, appreciate them.

    Yeah, all my Classic Records LPs were purchased from the most established dealers.

    Back to spinning again and enjoy the music!!!
     
  12. PMC7027

    PMC7027 Forum Hall Of Fame

    My Copy of Time Out DOES say "Manufactured & distributed by Classic Records, Inc. under license from..."

    It is in small print at the bottom of the (rear) jacket, directly under the "THIS COLUMBIA..." message.

    Mine also says copyright 1995. What year is yours?

    David Schwartz
     
  13. lerun

    lerun Forum Resident Thread Starter

    Location:
    Malaysia
    My Time Out has only one sticker on the plastic wrap which say 180gm vinyl
     
  14. Todd Fredericks

    Todd Fredericks Senior Member

    Location:
    A New Yorker
    My 'Time Out' says in large red letters on the front "BOOTLEG!!!" (after I wrote it...)
     
  15. Paul Chang

    Paul Chang Forum Old Boy, Former Senior Member Has-Been

    Classic has been bootlegging? :eek:
     
  16. ArneW

    ArneW Senior Member

    Location:
    Cologne, Germany
    Hi,

    I certainly do not want to cause confusion, but Classic Records is not the only company that has reissued "Time Out". Currently there are several 180 g reissues by Sony/Columbia itself, including a lot of Miles Davis stuff. This may be sad news for you, but your copy will most likely be one of those. The 180 g Columbia reissues are not bad, but not nearly as good as their Classic Records counterparts. But then, they're only $ 12.99. Red Trumpet has them all. See this link: http://www.redtrumpet.com/software/item.php3?item=10287&sid=1095976044

    Hope this helps, Arne
     
  17. tim_neely

    tim_neely Forum Hall Of Fame

    Location:
    Central VA
    You are correct. Most -- though not all!! -- of these Columbia reissues can be identified by the bar codes on the back cover and altered catalog numbers to reflect the last time they were reissued in the mass market (the 1980s). The Miles and Thelonious Monk catalogs have had the most action, but also, much of the stereo Dylan catalog, both Robert Johnson King of the Delta Blues Singers volumes, some Janis Joplin, Sly & the Family Stone ... and many others I can't remember right now. These are not bootlegs; these are made from analog masters.

    Also, as stated earlier, all Classic Records issues are identified as such in the fine print on the back cover. They also faithfully reproduce the label in use by the record company at the time of the original release, with the same catalog number as the original record with the same prefix, and they use the same cover as well. If the album wasn't issued with a bar code, the Classic edition doesn't have one, either. Classic even recalled its original edition of Born to Run by Bruce Springsteen because they issued it in a standard cover rather than the gatefold that the album was supposed to have, and people complained.
     
  18. Todd Fredericks

    Todd Fredericks Senior Member

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    Ya, Classic Records been bootlegg'n! They've opened up 3 secret spreak-easy's in NY in the Village. You got a know the special knock and special password of the night to tell the bouncer who slides the peek'hole open. They serve bath-tube gin, out-of-state cigarettes ($7.50 is now the norm in NY, so they supply the smokes for fity-cents), and slabs of bootleg vinyl to play on your table's hi-fi. Times is great thanks to ole Classic Recordz...

    Todd
     
  19. Scott Wheeler

    Scott Wheeler Forum Resident

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    Not to nit pick but what everyone is talking about are not bootleg records. They are pirate records. Pirate records are unauthorized knock offs of commercial releases meant to fool the consumer into thinking he or she is buying a legitimate commercial release. Bottlegs are very different beasts
     
  20. Paul Chang

    Paul Chang Forum Old Boy, Former Senior Member Has-Been

    Hey Todd, gimme some of that moonshine. :D
     
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