Classical "Mega" CD Box Sets

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by dajokr, Jan 28, 2012.

  1. J.A.W.

    J.A.W. Music Addict

    Sony/RCA will release a 24CD Jascha Heifetz set, The Complete Stereo Collection, in July in Europe. I wish they'd reissue the big Heifetz set for a reasonable price instead...

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  2. Sordel

    Sordel Forum Resident

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  3. MichaelCPE

    MichaelCPE Forum Resident

    Isn't it sad that even a company as big as Amazon had not bothered to include Classical Music properly in it's system.

    Being told that the contents of the Emerson set are:
    Disc: 1
    1. 1. Allegro​
    is not very useful!
     
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  4. Sordel

    Sordel Forum Resident

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    Yes, but on the other hand it can make a nice puzzle to work out the works from their movement titles and performers alone. :cool: I did check last night and found that I already have the Emerson Quartet"s Shostakovich cycle (which is my go-to for those works), and I don't really need another Beethoven cycle, so I probably have too many of these discs to make the set worth my while even at £2 a disc.
     
  5. Daedalus

    Daedalus I haven't heard it all.....

    Does anyone have the Great Moments from Carnegie Hall box set yet? Impressions?
     
  6. shicorp

    shicorp Senior Member

    Location:
    Austria
    Maybe a bit off-topic, but does anybody else have serious quality issues with these mega box sets by UMG? In all the sets I purchased recently, there was at least one faulty disk. I'm now trying to make a list and e-mail it to them. Unfortunately, amazon customer service is pretty pointless in this case, because they are always offering to replace the entire set. That makes no sense if disk 20 is faulty and they replace the entire set to get a working disk 20 - and then disk 25 is unplayable...
     
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  7. J.A.W.

    J.A.W. Music Addict

    All your sets were problematic? Could you please post which sets exactly you have had problems with and what kind of problems?
     
  8. shicorp

    shicorp Senior Member

    Location:
    Austria
    Right now I have in front of me:
    Il Barbiere di Siviglia from the Philips box set
    Cavalleria Rusticana from the Karajan opera set
    David and Igor Oistrach: Bach - Händen - Tartini from the DG mono set

    Some disks in both of the Bernstein sets were problematic as well, but I think I could handle them by trying different drives.

    In the past, this was no big deal for me, because if one track in a box set out of fifty disks or something is faulty, I could still re-purchase that disk or download the track from qobuz. Unfortunately, many of the disks are not available separately. Also, I don't understand why I have to pay again for it - it's the supplier's fault!

    I'll make a CUETools test on all the sets I have and will let you know which disks were faulty...
     
  9. shicorp

    shicorp Senior Member

    Location:
    Austria
    And yes: in most of the cases the disks look brand new - there are no scratches from putting the disks into the sleeves during the production. I sure hope for them, that these issues are only with my copies and do not stem from faulty stampers...
     
  10. J.A.W.

    J.A.W. Music Addict

    Not to criticize your system, but are you sure your CD-player is up to the task so to speak? Have you tried another player to check? Sometimes older players are having difficulties playing "modern" CDs with extended playing times. You haven't listed any equipment in your profile, so I have no idea what you're playing the CDs on. One of my older players didn't play some discs, but my current player has no problem whatsoever.
     
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  11. Rock66

    Rock66 Forum Resident

    J.A.W. is right. I bought a DG set (I think it was the Bach set, it's been a couple of years since this happened) and one disc would not play towards the end. I thought it might be a bad disc, or maybe I had not handled this disc properly and there was a smudge. I cleaned it, and there was a slight discoloration where I cleaned it. Still no luck. Took it to my other, older CD player, no luck. Finally took it to my laptop, which has a Blue-Ray drive. Played like a charm. So I ripped it and burned it to 2 CDs that I could play in the other players.

    The first player was a 10 year old Panasonic DVD player and the second was a 15 year old Yamaha CD player. The disc in question was about 82 minutes long, I think it was overburned. I have purchased several DG boxes since with no problem, but when I look at the running time of the discs in box the longest has usually been 79 minutes.
     
  12. J.A.W.

    J.A.W. Music Addict

    I think we're going way off-topic here (yes, guilty as charged). We'd better get back to discussing the mega boxes before a moderator puts a stop to it :)
     
  13. Daedalus

    Daedalus I haven't heard it all.....

    Mega boxes: let me ask this question once again:Has anyone heard any news of Decca continuing its Pavarotti Edition series.? So far only release is the first decade. They were supposed to keep releasing the entire series in 2014. So far-nothing. Curious. It is not like Decca has withdrawn-they are busy with many excellent boxes.
     
  14. J.A.W.

    J.A.W. Music Addict

    Maybe a problem with the rights or the production, or the series is not selling well. I haven't a clue, just speculating.
     
  15. crispi

    crispi Vinyl Archaeologist

    Location:
    Berlin
    A few belated impressions — I know this set is a few years old, but I just bought it at a price of around 1.30 Euros per CD.

    Having become such a Deutsche Grammophon fan over the last months (I love their catalogue, their artists, their elegant cover designs, and yes, their sound) I decided to get the DG Originals 50-CD set. The value of this set is great if you think that you almost always get 2 LPs on 1 CD, so this amounts to roughly 100 LPs worth of DG catalogue. So it's perfect in terms of selection and the sound is almost always fuller and more present than on the 1980s CD transfers. Therefore I'll focus more on the packaging.

    The discs are well-pressed, and I like the revised CD label design more than the one on the original Originals CDs: they managed to make the "vinyl grooves" design look and feel better and not as cheap looking as on the old ones. However, I am not a fan of the design in general. It mocks a vinyl LP, with a tiny yellow label in the centre and "grooves" around that. It might have looked cool in the '90s, but I do think they should have gone back to the classic silverface DG CD design.

    The booklet is okay, but not of really great value except for the tracklisting. The liner notes are practically just an ad for the "Originals" series written in overenthusiastic language, but not much interesting info. You don't get any of the copious liner notes that accompanied the individual CD releases, as expected.

    The CDs themselves are in the usual flimsy cardboard sleeves, with 2-CD sets being in gatefold sleeves. The quality of the cover reproductions is actually quite terrible: they just scanned the original CD covers instead of digitally re-creating the artwork, which results in a lot of interpolation due to the printing process. The text and images on the front are therefore fuzzy. The back just contains a tracklisting, copied over from the booklet.

    This is all not very surprising given the low price, but I thought some of the people visiting this thread who have not yet bought any of these sets would be interested. If you are a lover of great, lovingly put together packaging, this set is probably not for you. I also held the Decca MONO YEARS and ANALOGUE YEARS sets in my hands, and much of what I said of the packaging quality applies to that one.

    I guess I'll eventually re-sell the set after I get familiar with the catalogue and try to find the individual CDs either online or in thrift stores, in order to get the original liner notes.
     
  16. dajokr

    dajokr Classical "Mega" Box Set Collector Thread Starter

    Location:
    Virginia Beach, VA
    This is an auto-buy for me. Not many details yet...

    Vivarte Vol. 2
     
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  17. Lije Baley

    Lije Baley Forum Resident

    I'll second that. I'm also waiting for the "promised" L'Oiseau Lyre box of medieval and renaissance music.
     
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  18. zen

    zen Senior Member

    Exactly. I'll third that. :)

    Is there any word on the medieval/renaissance box?
     
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  19. bluemooze

    bluemooze Senior Member

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    +1 :righton:
     
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  20. dajokr

    dajokr Classical "Mega" Box Set Collector Thread Starter

    Location:
    Virginia Beach, VA
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  21. Marzz

    Marzz Forum Resident

    Location:
    Australia
    Sorry to read this, crispi. Thanks for an informative post which pretty much describes the box I have except, fwiw I don't seem to have the issue with the CD covers at all! The pictures are far from fuzzy, actually I'd say sharp even, especially the text. I compared about 10 of these with the original CD releases I still have and they are very close - except perhaps, the Kleiber/Beethoven whose original reflective silver colour is now replaced by a dull grey - but still very good otherwise.

    Is there any way you can look at another box? I bought mine (used) soon after it's release, so it's an earlier issue (printing?). Perhaps there's a difference? Mine is "Made in the EU" - let me know if you need any other information from my box (barcodes, etc). I just assume they're all the same.
    I also have "The MONO YEARS" and it's also as good.
     
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  22. crispi

    crispi Vinyl Archaeologist

    Location:
    Berlin
    Maybe I used the wrong word there. It's not exactly "fuzzy" per se, it's subtler than that. My father used to work in the printing industry, so I know a little bit about these things. When you scan a printed cover and re-print it at the same size you have to run some filters in order to get rid of the dot pattern, otherwise it'll look messy. That always leads to a loss in resolution.

    I'm nitpicking, I know. And I know that not everybody can have printing skills like the Japanese. But it does detract from my enjoyment of a set when I see that the job was done witht the skill of a dedicated, but unexperienced, intern.

    Still, I cherish the box. It's probably the best introduction in classical music that there is out there.
     
  23. Malamute Dad

    Malamute Dad Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Arizona
    New member, classical novice and my first post here! This forum has been very helpful in selecting what boxes to purchase. So far, Piano 111, Mozart 111, Mercury Living Presence Vol. 1, Living Stereo Collection Vol. 2 and Decca Sound. I am slowly working my way through them.

    Also, thought I would like to pass on a good deal that I found earlier today. Living Stereo Vol. 2 for $67.62 with free shipping in USA

    CD Living Stereo Collection, Vol. 2 (CD 17238665), »
     
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  24. pscreed

    pscreed Upstanding Member

    Location:
    Land of the Free
    In receipt and playing disc 1 of the "Decca Sound 55 Great Vocal Recitals" set as I post this. I can not even imagine what it would cost to put together this collection before the advent of the mega box. I'm interested in many other genres of music but at this point I think available funds will go to the classical mega box category for the foreseeable future.

    Except for all the SACDs. And Blu Rays.. And all that other stuff.

    This is incredible though. Seriously.
     
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  25. George C.

    George C. Forum Resident

    Location:
    Littleton, CO
    Can't believe the "Decca Sound 55 Great Vocal Recitals" is out already. It's been a hectic year for music buying. Hopefully my set will arrive soon!
     
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