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  1. George P

    George P Must Be The Music Thread Starter

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    Continued from here.

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  2. J.A.W.

    J.A.W. Music Addict

    He also didn't record Mahler 1-3; didn't he like those either? I read somewhere that von Karajan didn't have much affinity with Beethoven 6, yet he recorded it several times; they weren't his best performances in my view. To my ears his recordings of Sibelius 1 and 2 aren't very convincing either; his later Sibelius symphonies (4-7) are great, on the other hand.
     
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  3. ToddBD

    ToddBD Forum Resident

    Interesting...one of my favorite Beethoven 6's is von Karajan's mid-80's recording pictured here. Yes, the doubling of brass and woodwind is pretty bombastic, but sometimes I like that kind of power and fire in Beethoven.
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  4. J.A.W.

    J.A.W. Music Addict

    To me von Karajan's Beethoven sounds like a city dweller lost in the middle of nature, total alienation.
     
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  5. ToddBD

    ToddBD Forum Resident

    That's certainly an interesting way to put it...Solti is one of my favorite conductors, and his Beethoven leaves me feeling that way sometimes.
     
  6. J.A.W.

    J.A.W. Music Addict

    I've been thinking of getting (or trying to get) the big Arthur Rubinstein Complete Album Collection box at a decent price (I'm in the Netherlands), but before making a decision I'd like to hear a few opinions from owners of the box - how is the sound quality, especially of the 1950s and later stuff, and how is the artistic quality? I've never been a real Rubinstein fan, though I do like several of the individual CDs and Chopin collections.

    I did a search, but there's not much info on this box on this board - or I couldn't find it.
     
  7. Robin L

    Robin L Musical Omnivore

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    Someone described Toscanini's "Pastorale" and an athletic run through the country, Furtwängler's a slow walk with time to smell the flowers and Karajan's in a sports car zipping through the landscape. His '62 Eroica is some kind of wonderful though.
     
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  8. Mr Bass

    Mr Bass Forum Resident

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    I think the issue with HvK and the Beethoven 6th is the direct pictorial nature of the music at least according to Beethoven. HvK wasn't very good with the Symphonie Fantastique which has a rather precise program from the composer. HvK was very Germanic in his approach to music and viewed it as high art bordering on the metaphysical. Beethoven himself had that attitude although he had a sense of humor which HvK didn't. HvK was very good with the late symphonies of Sibelius which are by common agreement (and Sibelius himself) reactions to nature, almost without human presence. But they are not pictorial in the sense of the Pastoral symphony. For some reason he could set that aside with the Strauss symphonic poems but those are rather bombastic themselves.
     
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  9. john greenwood

    john greenwood Forum Resident

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    It's really hard to generalize on sound quality given the range of sources. I got it for a good price and am happy with it (although I still haven't listened to all of it). Rubinstein was my introduction to the romantic piano repertoire, so I am predisposed towards his interpretations.
     
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  10. kevinsinnott

    kevinsinnott Forum Coffeeologist

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    Speaking of Rubinstein, my recording engineer friend told me that Rubinstein had his piano tuned just slightly sharp, which brightened the tone. Anyone else heard this? I know I sure like his piano sound, but I always credit that to Mr. R's playing and Lew Layton's microphone artistry.
     
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  11. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

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    This was the last HvK's Beethoven Symphonies cycle and perhaps his 4th IIRC ...
     
  12. trumpetplayer

    trumpetplayer Well-Known Member

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    Listening to disc 1

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  13. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

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    Now playing the following CD from my Historical Recordings collection ...

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  14. bluemooze

    bluemooze Forum Resident

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    Now listening to "Les Fantaisies de Patricia Petibon" with PB being accompanied by various artists on Virgin.

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  15. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

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    I have seen her around but do not have a clue other than knowing that she is some opera singer ... LOL
     
  16. Scott Wheeler

    Scott Wheeler Forum Resident

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    I'm not sure that would actually work. I have heard that Horowitz had nail polish applied to the hammers of his pianos to make them louder and brighter.
     
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  17. bluemooze

    bluemooze Forum Resident

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    Here is a beautiful way to be introduced to her....

    "Couperin - Leçons de Ténèbres / Daneman, Petibon, Les Arts Florissants, Christie"

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  18. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

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    I do not have this recording, though I have a number of other recordings by William Christie ...
     
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  19. drh

    drh Talking Machine

    I will carefully refrain from comment on Karajan--I suppose most of us already know my opinion on that subject :hide:--but I'll join you in saying that I found Solti's cycle disappointing. From what I recall, it as somehow lacking in weight to match its general fleetness of foot.
     
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  20. bluemooze

    bluemooze Forum Resident

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    Now listening to "Franz Liszt - Etudes d' execution transcendante" performed by Alice Sara Ott on DG.

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  21. vanhooserd

    vanhooserd Forum Resident

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    I got the box for $112 & have been well-satisfied. I've listened to the first 30 CDs & sound quality is satisfactory. I already had quite a few of Rubinstein's later recordings & have found him to perform at a consistently high level. Obviously I'm a fan; I wouldn't want that much of anyone's work unless I really enjoyed their playing. I love having the picture sleeves & the nice book that's included.
     
  22. bluemooze

    bluemooze Forum Resident

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    Now listening to "Salut d'Amour" performed by Anne Akiko Meyers and Sandra Rivers on RCA.

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  23. Joe071

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  24. bluemooze

    bluemooze Forum Resident

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    Now listening to "Handel - Arcadian Duets" performed by Le Concert D'Astree conducted by Emmanuelle Haim on Virgin Veritas.

    Vocalists are Laura Claycomb/Natalie Dessay/Veronique Gens/Juanita Lascarro/Anna Maria Panzarella/Patricia Petibon/Marijana Mujanovic/Sara Mingardo/Brian Asawa/Paul Agnew.

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  25. john greenwood

    john greenwood Forum Resident

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    Waking up to Goren Sollscher's "Renaissance Album."
     
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