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Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by George P, May 29, 2015.

  1. J.A.W.

    J.A.W. Music Addict

    For Brahms Otto Klemperer is still the one for me after all these years, his 1956-1957 recordings of the symphonies with the Philharmonia Orchestra London are still unsurpassed as far as I'm concerned. I found the Chailly set above unconvincing, it sounded uninspired, tired to my ears - for want of a better description (not my forte).

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  2. ToddBD

    ToddBD Forum Resident

    Klemperer's Brahms is a titanic achievement...amazing.
     
  3. bruce2

    bruce2 Forum Resident

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    I was looking for options to get these recordings and found a hybrid SACD set from 2015 from Japan. I wonder how the sound is on it. The Brahms symphonies I listen to now are Solti and Chicago for the first three and Carlos Kleiber for the fourth.
     
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  4. George P

    George P Notable Member Thread Starter

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    Indeed! For Brahms symphonies, I also like Barbirolli, Sanderling and Karajan 60s sets.
     
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  5. Wes H

    Wes H Forum Resident

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    I certainly agree with Klemperer on Brahms... especially his recording of the 1st Symphony in Kingsway Hall. It's an absolute powerhouse, setting the bar so high I've never heard another preformance surpass it.

    Second to Klemperer, I like the analog set that Abbado recorded with various orchestras for Deutsche Grammophon in the mid-'70s.

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  6. MikaelaArsenault

    MikaelaArsenault Forum Resident

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  7. Scope J

    Scope J Senior Member

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    Today's haul

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  8. George P

    George P Notable Member Thread Starter

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    I've only heard the Poulenc CD, but it's great!
     
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  9. Daily Nightly

    Daily Nightly Well-Known Member

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    Again...an example of that '60s Ormandy "sound" (in addition to the *always* lilting strings) providing for a good system workout. However, here, the use of the MTC make the Ode to Joy come-off like CAROLLERS:sigh:; without any sense of the transcendent, "Teutonic" resolve -I think you can *only* get from a German (or even Viennese) rendering- in order to feel like you were brought to a surreal level by it.
     
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  10. dale 88

    dale 88 Errand Boy for Rhythm

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    William Kapell
    Frick Collection Recital
    RCA, 1996
     
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  11. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

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    Now playing the following CD, which arrived from across the pond a few months ago for a first listen ...

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  12. Scope J

    Scope J Senior Member

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    np:
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  13. Wes H

    Wes H Forum Resident

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    Interesting. I have nearly the same tape, but mine includes Beethoven's Eighth Symphony-- which makes it a very full tape running at 7.5 ips! I bought this new in 1971 when I subscribed to the Columbia House Tape Club. Catalog number on the tape is MQ-929.
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  14. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

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    Do you still listen to your pre-recorded classical music open-reels?
     
  15. Walter H

    Walter H Santa's Helper

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    I don't know this performance but I remember hearing back in the day that the single-disc issue of Ormandy's Beethoven Ninth was missing (a) repeat(s) in the Scherzo that was/were included in the three-sided version. Wonder if the tapes differ in that respect?
     
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  16. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

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    I attended a few Gerard Schwarz concerts back in the 90's when he was based in NY ...
     
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  17. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

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    There are a few tracks that are a century old but MOT did a superb job in making them quite listenable ...
     
  18. Wes H

    Wes H Forum Resident

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    Yes I do, but usually to keep music running in the background while I'm doing something else.
     
  19. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

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    I have been too lazy to connect all the necessary gears to play my reels, i.e. outboard Dolby B/C NR and a few other things ...
     
  20. Wes H

    Wes H Forum Resident

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    I didn't know that! ...So I just now went to my LP shelves and pulled down the 7-LP box set of Ormandy's Beethoven cycle, along with the single-disc issue of the Ninth. Lo and behold: The second movement runs 13:44 in the box set version, but only 10:20 on the single-disc issue. Even worse for the single-disc issue, the third movement is split between sides 1 & 2. Horrors.

    Now I'll have to check out the tape and see if they used the truncated or full version of the second movement. I'll report back-- likely tomorrow. Perhaps "Daily Nightly" can check his copy as well.
    Thanks for this interesting tip!
     
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  21. ToddBD

    ToddBD Forum Resident

    I enjoy the Solti/CSO Brahms 1 and 2 very much. I think the BPO/Karajan 3rd from the 1960's that George P mentioned is great as well. And, Abbado/BPO in the 4th is right up near the top with me.
     
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  22. bruce2

    bruce2 Forum Resident

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    Cool. I ordered a cheap old copy of the Klemperer Brahms 2nd to see how I like it compared to Solti. I have the Abbado Berlin 4th you mention also but prefer the Kleiber after comparative listening.
     
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  23. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

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    I have had the Solti/CSO version for a number of years but really have not gone beyond the first pass ...

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  24. ToddBD

    ToddBD Forum Resident

    Yes, the Kleiber is a gem of a performance and recording. I think one of the reasons I respond to Klemperer so much (or, rather, it speaks to me) is that his absolute command of orchestral balance is always in play, and his obsession with proper ensemble dynamic structure clears out some of the "thickness" of Brahms' orchestration, making the lines and textures crystal clear. Also, his tempo choices seem to me to be perfectly suited.
     
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  25. dale 88

    dale 88 Errand Boy for Rhythm

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    Jean-Pierre Rampal
    R. Veyron Lacroix, piano
    Pierre Pasquier, viola
    Etenne Pasquier, cello
    cd3 from The complete Erato Recordings I. 1954-1963
    2015
    01 - (6:26) Serge Prokoviev: Sonata in D Major Op.94 1.Andantino
    02 - (4:51) Serge Prokoviev Sonata in D Major Op.94 2,scherzo
    03 - (3:43) Serge Prokoviev Sonata in D Major Op.94 3.Andante
    04 - (6:45) Serge Prokoviev Sonata in D Major Op.94 4.Allegro Com Brio
    05 - (6:20) Bohuslav Martinu: Sonata 1.Allegro Moderato
    06 - (6:25) Bohuslav Martinu Sonata 2.Adagio
    07 - (4:59) Bohuslav Martinu Sonata 3.Allegro Poco Moderato
    08 - (4:31) Paul Hindemith: Sonata 1.Heiter Bewegt
    09 - (4:15) Paul Hindemith Sonata 2.Sehr Longsam
    10 - (4:11) Paul Hindemith Sonata 3.Sehr Lebhaft, Marsch
    11 - (4:40) Albert Roussel: Trio in F Major Op.40 1.Allegro Grazioso
    12 - (5:49) Albert Roussel Trio in F Major Op.40 2.Andante
    13 - (4:10) Albert Roussel Trio in F Major Op.40 3.Allegro Non Troppo
     
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