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Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by George P, May 29, 2015.

  1. Ron Stone

    Ron Stone Offending Member

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    Tsk, tsk . . . I haven't really made comparisons yet. Not sure I can extract performance/interpretation from production/sound quality, so as always in this thread, please adjust your grain of salt accordingly.

    From someone who only several years ago had a couple discs of the warhorse sonatas, I now own close to ten complete cycles! It's hard to decline the deals being offered on eBay. $15 shipped? Okay. $10 shipped? Even better!

    So my choice so far for performance? Serkin/Columbia Sony . . . not complete, though. And here I run into the "problem" of first impressions being forever the standard. I'm pretty sure my first Beethoven LP forty years ago was a double record sampler featuring, among other Columbia performers, Serkin's take on the sonatas. So his always sound "right" to my ears . . .

    Sonics? Jando/Naxos. My system really likes this cycle. Good percussive "attack" without being too dry.
     
  2. George P

    George P Love Will Lead Us Thread Starter

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    Of the incomplete sets, Serkin is indeed the best! Especially the mono recordings.
     
  3. JuniorMaineGuide

    JuniorMaineGuide Forum Resident

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    The Arditti Quartet playing works by Nancarrow, Ligeti, and Dutilleux. Wigmore Hall Live. This is a beautiful recital of works I was not very familiar with before hearing this disc. Now I play it before going to bed and first thing when I get up in the morning.
     
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  4. oldbsturgeon

    oldbsturgeon RlrrLrll

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    I have really been pleased with the RCA living stereo hybrid SACDs, so much that I got another one in yesterday.
    It is the Respighi Fountains/Pines of Rome and Debussy La Mer performed by Chicago under Fritz Reiner.
     
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  5. George P

    George P Love Will Lead Us Thread Starter

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    I LOVE the Arditti Qt. Have you heard their Schoenberg, or their Ligeti?
     
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  6. bruce2

    bruce2 Forum Resident

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    If you really want to be blown away, listen to an Analogue Productions SACD of this same material. In the opinion of myself and many others the AP discs are superior to the older RCA BMG discs. Unfortunately they are about double the price and don't contain any extra material, just the original albums.
     
  7. hvbias

    hvbias Forum Resident

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    It's been some time since I've heard this (I really like the Tchaikovsky Violin Concerto on the same SACD), I think it's a fine performance but I personally prefer the Oistrakh and Perlman above for tape era recordings. My two favorites for historical recordings are Ginette Neveu (EMI) and Joseph Szigeti with Halle Orchestra/Hamilton Harty, the latter on Naxos transferred nicely by Mark Obert-Thorn.
     
  8. George P

    George P Love Will Lead Us Thread Starter

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    For historical orchestral recordings, I prefer a time machine. :cool:
     
  9. JuniorMaineGuide

    JuniorMaineGuide Forum Resident

    Their Schoenberg was the first recording I heard by them and it “clicked” for me. One of the treasures of my collection. They play so clearly and musically.

    I like the Ligeti on this Wigmore recording but I have not heard their studio one. I know Bartok is not really in their wheelhouse but I wish they had recorded his quartets as well. Apparently the fourth is available.

    It’s a shame their CDs are mostly out of print and hard to find! I am having a good time sampling things on Spotify though.
     
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  10. George P

    George P Love Will Lead Us Thread Starter

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    Their CD of Studio recordings of the Ligeti string quartet material is superb and well worth picking up. I hope it's still in print.
     
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  11. drh

    drh Talking Machine

    I'll confess the Brahms vln. cto. is not among my favorite scores by that celebrated composer :hide:, so if a recording catches my fancy it's probably something special--for good or ill! For a historical recording, I like the account by Albert Spalding, one of his final recordings from late in life, issued on the US budget label Remington just after WW II. For a modern one, don't overlook Hilary Hahn with Neville Marriner (not usually one of my favorite conductors, but he acquits himself well here).
     
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  12. bruce2

    bruce2 Forum Resident

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    I have the Heifetz Tchaikovsky Concerto you mentioned on AP SACD and it is one of my favorite discs, probably a top ten classical album for me. For the Brahms Violin Concerto my favorite is a newer recording that I discovered on this very thread, by Vadim Gluzman on BIS SACD.
     
  13. oldbsturgeon

    oldbsturgeon RlrrLrll

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    Oh I’m sure they are great, but like you said they do cost a lot more. Plus I can buy more albums at that price:D
     
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  14. Ron Stone

    Ron Stone Offending Member

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    George, you got this completely wrong! It sounds like it's down a long hallway and my back's to it. Strange, to say the least.

    Reading up on it, the reproducing Bosendorfer is in a performance theater, sited for the audience and not recording. There is no give to the cables feeding it, so it cannot be moved at all. It had to be recorded as best as could be done.

    I was hoping -- expecting, really -- that it would be recorded more akin to the various Stereophile CDs like POEM and INTERMEZZO.
     
  15. George P

    George P Love Will Lead Us Thread Starter

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    Well said. :agree:

    Yeah, a shame, really. It's good that you didn't spend a lot of money on it.
     
  16. hvbias

    hvbias Forum Resident

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    For those that have the Serkin box (or heard every version of Piano Concerto 5 he performed) do you have a favorite from that box? I think I have heard CD 36 with Bernstein but can't remember.

    Which brings me to my next question does anyone keep notes about their classical listening? I used to do it in notebooks, then switched to flashcards and made an attempt to do it on Google Docs so I could access them anywhere but found that writing was more enjoyable so I would often not enter anything online.

    And after an email exchange with Richard Caniell I did end up buying Immortal Performances' All Tchaikovsky Benefit concert disc that was discussed several pages ago. He said they used off air transmission lacquers and not RCA's low quality 78 rpm shellac (his words not mine). Like the Beethoven 1939 set it came with an incredibly detailed booklet, 30 pages for a single concert!

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    I listened so some of the first movement last night, was too tired to hear more. Definitely a very nice upgrade in transparency throughout the frequencies as well as tonal color.
     
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  17. George P

    George P Love Will Lead Us Thread Starter

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    Generally, I prefer Serkin's mono recordings, but in the case of the Beethoven concertos I think he did an incredible job in all his recordings, at least up to his live 1977 set with Kubelik on Orfeo. An online friend prefers his recording with Ormandy over his others. Personally, I haven't compared them. Maybe someday.

    I used to keep notes, when I was doing surveys (Chopin Ballades, Preludes; Beethoven Sonatas; Rachmaninoff Piano Concertos), but kinda gave it up, as it took the fun away from listening.
     
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  18. George P

    George P Love Will Lead Us Thread Starter

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    Enjoyed revisiting this one this morning, so much so that I plan to listen through all my Gould Bach recordings in the coming weeks, starting with one of my favorites:

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    (I know at least one frequenter of the thread @Wes H will approve) :cool:
     
  19. J.A.W.

    J.A.W. Music Addict

    That image reminds me of Thelonious Monk's bear dance :)
     
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  20. hvbias

    hvbias Forum Resident

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    Big fan as well and my introduction to Bach's French Suites. Was listening to Koroliov play them earlier in the weak (been on a bit of a Bach keyboard works kick).
     
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  21. George P

    George P Love Will Lead Us Thread Starter

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    Freudian slip? ;)
     
  22. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

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    Not sure if I have a favorite version of the French Suites and I have versions by both Gould and Koroliov and a number of other versions on both piano and harpsichord ...
     
  23. hvbias

    hvbias Forum Resident

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    :laugh: nice catch, actually lack of sleep. And pretty embarrassing as in my head I am a stickler for that kind of thing.
     
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  24. bruce2

    bruce2 Forum Resident

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    I have been on a Bach kick lately so I may have to get one of these Gould recordings. My latest Bach purchase is the mid 50s recording of the Sonatas for Solo Violin by Nathan Milstein and it is stellar!
     
  25. coopmv

    coopmv Newton 1/30/2001 - 8/31/2011

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    I have the following twofer but do not know the recording date offhand ...

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