Correct way to lift tonearm

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  1. AudioPhil

    AudioPhil Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    Is there a correct way to lift a manual tonearm when a record has finished?

    ie; do I lift it first before stopping the turntable or stop the turntable then lift?

    Silly question I know but does it make any difference?
     
  2. PMC7027

    PMC7027 Forum Hall Of Fame

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    I always lift the tonearm then stop the turntable.
     
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  3. RhodesSupremacy

    RhodesSupremacy Forum Resident

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    The correct way is to first rotate the record backwards until the arm makes it's way back to the beginning, then lift.
     
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  4. CMT

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    This is always to be done with a pad and pencil at the ready so that any hidden utterances, especially of a satanic or demonic nature, audible only when the disc is played backwards, can be noted and made public. (May be useful especially in making approaches to tabloids looking for sensational articles.)
     
  5. plastico

    plastico Forum Resident

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    Only if you're playing Jack White, Lazaretto!
    Cheers, Doug
     
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  6. Swann36

    Swann36 A widower finding solace in music

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    Thats the way to do it ....
     
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  7. dkmonroe

    dkmonroe A completely self-taught idiot

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    Lift, then stop the turntable. Use a cueing arm if you have one.
     
  8. Josquin des Prez

    Josquin des Prez I have spoken!

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  9. The Pinhead

    The Pinhead KING OF BOOM AND SIZZLE IN HELL

    Dunno; my TT does it by itself:D
     
  10. Jack of most

    Jack of most Forum Resident

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    If you are continuing your listening session, don't stop the turntable. Lift the record carefully and then cue up the next one. Wear and tear on your motor is accelerated when you constantly turn it on and off. There are usefull threads on this.
     
  11. Gregalor

    Gregalor Forum Resident

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    I’d rather wear out and need to replace my motor than my records if I screw up this risky practice.
     
  12. Josquin des Prez

    Josquin des Prez I have spoken!

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    Maybe. That depends on the motor. I play records all the time but stop the motor when I change sides, since I also use a spindle weight and outer ring. No ill effects after using it about every day for over a half decade.
     
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  13. PineBark

    PineBark formerly known as BackScratcher

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    Agreed. Replacing my TT motor would be much easier than replacing my LPs.
     
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  14. Jack of most

    Jack of most Forum Resident

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    My Rega motor runs silky smooth after 20-years of keeping the motor on while changing records. Also, not a single LP has been damaged, knock on wood. Good luck with your methodology as time will tell. Check the numerous posts on this subject and you may change your mind!
     
  15. The FRiNgE

    The FRiNgE Forum Resident

    Lift first, then stop the turntable. (as mentioned by many others) The reason: important to understand why this is so.. Every platter that stops does a brief reverse "recoil" just after it stops. Some belt drive models may not do this, as the belt applies some resistance to rotation, but otherwise the laws of physics apply. This brief reversal could damage the stylus suspension.
     
  16. RobSNY

    RobSNY Well-Known Member

    You're breaking up a very important relationship- You need to ask the tonearm, stylus, and record for their permission.
     
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  17. Strat-Mangler

    Strat-Mangler Personal Survival Daily Record-Breaker

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    What??? Uh, never. No way. If you have garage store G-graded easily replaceable records, maybe.
     
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  18. Chilli

    Chilli Pretend Engineer.

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    A few examples in here....

     
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  19. Tullman

    Tullman Senior Member

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    Yeah, that would never work for me. I use a periphery ring.
     
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  20. Josquin des Prez

    Josquin des Prez I have spoken!

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    If a Rega motor fails because you turn it off to change record sides, then it's not very good quality. In that case I'm damn glad I got rid of mine years ago, and switched brands when I upgraded to the higher end. And like @Tullman I use an outer ring, so leaving the motor running is a non starter for me.
     
  21. Gregalor

    Gregalor Forum Resident

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    Rega, so felt mat, I’m assuming. That’s the reason it’s even remotely safe to do this. To recommend it to everyone is simply bad advice.
     
  22. rjp

    rjp Senior Member

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    gently
     
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  23. Strat-Mangler

    Strat-Mangler Personal Survival Daily Record-Breaker

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    Yep. This morning, I was listening to Jellyfish's Spilt Milk, a record that sells for about $250 used. Why would I foolishly chance it for a motor that I can replace for cheaper than that and would be far easier to find?
     
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  24. DVinylFan

    DVinylFan Well-Known Member

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    As directly vertical as possible
     
  25. Isaac K.

    Isaac K. Forum Resident

    I’m 46 years old, been listening to records my entire life, and I’ve never had a motor wear out for any reason. I’ll keep stopping the turntable when I flip records, just as I’ve always done.
     
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