Could Steve remaster "Memory Almost Full"?

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Plan9, Jun 20, 2007.

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  1. Plan9

    Plan9 Mastering Engineer Thread Starter

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    Hi everybody, I'm new here!
    I was just listening to the new album from our dear Macca, and I agree with what I've read on this forum: it is not a great sounding one. I was wondering what kind of sequence of unbelievable events it would take for Steve to get involved in the remastering?
     
  2. backseat

    backseat Forum Resident

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    C'mon guys, let's subscribe a petition!! Count on me
     
  3. thenexte

    thenexte Active Member

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    Isn't there a way to digitally expand the wave forms and create more dynamics just as there is a way to squash the music by using digital compression? That would undo the damage, or not?
     
  4. DJ WILBUR

    DJ WILBUR The Cappuccino Kid

    another day another memory almost full thread.:righton: not
     
  5. Plan9

    Plan9 Mastering Engineer Thread Starter

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    Well, there are ways to do this on software, but I doubt it would improve the sound... or "re-create" the original wave form out of thin air for that matter...
     
  6. JLGB

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    That would be like folding something in stereo to mono and trying to get it to stereo again. Imposauras!:) :wave: Ps..although I have a secret tweak that makes it better or less worse sounding!
     
  7. Plan9

    Plan9 Mastering Engineer Thread Starter

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    Exactly! another reason to prefer analog over digital: you can't change digital once it has been recorded for good...
     
  8. Plan9

    Plan9 Mastering Engineer Thread Starter

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    Yup. But petitions doesn't seem to have a great impact on record companies nowadays... :shake:
     
  9. Plan9

    Plan9 Mastering Engineer Thread Starter

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    What's your secret? :D
     
  10. Dave D

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    If you check one of the thousands of Memory Almost Full threads, Bob Ludwig said in an email to me that this is how Macca wanted it to sound. He also hinted that it was the way the tapes sounded anyway, before he mastered it.
     
  11. Dave W S

    Dave W S New Member

    Dynamics can be added with an expander but no magic pill can fix bad remasters unfortunately. If there is one, somebody please get me a prescription!

    Imagine a song recorded at a constant level of say -6db all the way through, except for one point where a snare is hit and the level rises to 0db. Then some wacko engineer decides to maximize the volume of the whole -6db part to 0db. The snare has nowhere to go and will now be equal in level to the rest of the song. How could a computer ever "know" that it was originally supposed to be 6db louder than the rest of the song?

    If the music was just compressed and not peak limited, maybe it could be expanded a little, but I would guess it would sound awful to attempt that. The computer would still have no idea what settings were used on the original compression- attack, decay, cutoff... to uncompress (expand) properly. Not to mention the decrease in fidelity caused by reducing the bit depth (from the original compression) and then hoping to just pull it back up in all of its original detail out of nowhere. Although that's another story, or argument...
     
  12. MikeP5877

    MikeP5877 Senior Member

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    I'd rather Steve spend his time on worthier albums.
     
  13. Jerry

    Jerry Grateful Gort Staff

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    :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
     
  14. Plan9

    Plan9 Mastering Engineer Thread Starter

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    Yes, I've read that too... for a second I scratched my head and wondered if Macca hadn't lost his hearing...
    Anyway it seems to have paid because it has sold more copies in the US in its first week than any of his other studio albums.
     
  15. DJ WILBUR

    DJ WILBUR The Cappuccino Kid

    :agree:
     
  16. Plan9

    Plan9 Mastering Engineer Thread Starter

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    If Steve had an infinite amount of time, I'd like him to remaster everything! :p
     
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  17. ubsman

    ubsman Active Member

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    This is a coffee company though, isn't it?
     
  18. Plan9

    Plan9 Mastering Engineer Thread Starter

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    :laugh: :laugh:
     
  19. Jerry

    Jerry Grateful Gort Staff

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    That's grounds for remastering!




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  20. Harry Krishner

    Harry Krishner Forum Resident

    Sales don't either :shake:
     
  21. Harry Krishner

    Harry Krishner Forum Resident


    HAHA ...grounds.
     
  22. Harry Krishner

    Harry Krishner Forum Resident

    :thumbsdn: :thumbsdn: :thumbsdn: :thumbsdn: :thumbsdn: :thumbsdn: :thumbsdn: :thumbsdn: :thumbsdn: :thumbsdn: :thumbsdn: :thumbsdn:
     
  23. Plan9

    Plan9 Mastering Engineer Thread Starter

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    I don't believe Steve would be elitist to that extend.
    Maybe "MAF" is not Macca's best, but still is damn fine, don't you think?
     
  24. johnny33

    johnny33 New Member

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    Well this is another confirmation for me that the Beatles remasters will probably not be too hot. Well actually they WILL be too hot.

    Sorry to insert a beatles remaster reference. But I would think Paul had some say in the remasters sound.
     
  25. Plan9

    Plan9 Mastering Engineer Thread Starter

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    Well then let's HOPE he has not lost his hearing! :winkgrin:
     
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