Crazy Priced Albums on eBay - All From Same Seller

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  1. Blackie

    Blackie Forum Resident

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    Although he does (loudly) state: THE INFAMOUS PEELABLE BANANA STICKER IS COMPLETELY PEELED-OFF; IN ORDER TO RECONSTRUCT THE ORIGINAL ARTWORK, WE HAVE AFFIXED A HIGH-RESOLUTION REPLICA STICKER OVER THE PINK BANANA
     
  2. kwadguy

    kwadguy Forum Resident

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    Yeah, he does say that in the mostly unreadable mixed font/mixed color mess that is the description.

    But eBay and PayPal have a pretty consistent policy of favoring the buyer if the picture itself (ignoring any text) is misleading. And the picture is misleading.
     
  3. Led9

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  4. Led9

    Led9 Forum Resident

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    It's also interesting that his crazy description layout is almost identical to well known LP seller Bob Djukic. Bob is famous for consistently getting ridiculous prices for relatively common albums as well. I think something is rotten in Denmark.
     
  5. eddiel

    eddiel Forum Resident

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    ^

    I see this m.o. often though and some don't even use garish layouts, just bamboozle you with information that's mostly pointless.

    I think if I'm going to lay down $1,000 for a record I know the history of the band and you don't have to tell me that "NO MONO EXISTS!!! NEVER RELEASED IN MONO. ULTRA RARE IN STEREO BECAUSE NO MONO EXISTS." :laugh: Or some such load of nonsense.

    There are some UK sellers who employ this method. They stick to basic layouts (black and white), include a lot of high res photos and then wrap their grade in paragraph(s) of nonsense. I sometimes copy the grading part, paste it into a text file and then separate each sentence so it's on it's own line so I can easily see where they say it's VG or VG+, etc because you can't always find it easily amongst all the underlined sentences or words used to emphasize how wonderful this record is. Sometimes it's basically a VG record but still presented like it's a NM record. The pictures never really show the true condition. Labels are photographed so they don't even show a spindle mark but they are there.

    I think adding all that information gives buyers some sort of confidence, even if a lot of the information is mostly over exaggerated generic grading terms.

    A lot of these sellers also have great return policies. No fuss, no muss and some will even reimburse return postage without being asked. What this means, IMO, is that badly graded records don't result in a negative feedback. Sure they made an error but they paid your return postage..people won't leave a negative or neutral for that because the seller made it right.

    In my experience, grading isn't always that accurate with these sellers either. It can be very off, or just off enough that you don't want to go through the process of a return because you can live with it. Of course they also hit it perfectly too.

    But when it comes to Bob Djukic, and keep in mind I'm banned from his auctions (returned records that were not graded properly), I don't think he does anything like printing fake stickers, etc like the guy above. I've never noticed anything like that in any of his auctions, which I always go through even if I don't plan on bidding (well now I can't anyway). I think he finds good collections, presents them like they are gold even if they are bronze or silver and attracts bidders as a result. But you can get some good deals too. Most of what I won from him have been well priced because of good timing and going after records that weren't in high demand.
     
  6. Classicrock

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    There has always been a number of Ebay sellers who get high prices in auctions. I think this is related to the blurb they give and photos. However photos never really show you the true condition so it ends up as a matter of trust. Some of these dealers do have high standards but others are selling average product hyped up. There was one I returned an overgraded record to and while there was no problem in getting a refund I was instantly blocked from his auctions. I think the lack of top quality vinyl on the market has meant grading standards have slipped. I can't believe some of them can produce an endless list of nr mint rarities every week unless they are selling from their own vast collection. They are just not out there but are sitting in peoples collections.
     
  7. Jrr

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    So do I, but it really is frustrating when you see something you would love to have, but it's so ridiculously priced you know for sure it is never going to sell. That's when it bugs me, but your point is well taken.
     
  8. Jrr

    Jrr Forum Resident

    The more an ad looks like you well described, the less apt I am to buy the item. Especially when they spend a lot of time "selling", ie, using terms like rare, out of print, your last chance to own a classic....all that garbage.
     
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  9. TheVillageRecorder

    TheVillageRecorder Forum Resident Thread Starter

    He's now suspended on ebay....
     
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  10. aoxomoxoa

    aoxomoxoa It's a lonesome old town...

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    Nice
     
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  12. Led9

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    awesome! Ebay did something right for once. Considering he has no negative feedback that's quite a move by Ebay. They must have found out what was rotten in Denmark.
     
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  13. bayen

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  14. Jeff Kent

    Jeff Kent Forum Resident

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    The first thing I thought about when reading this was that some unsuspecting record collector is going to wander into the middle of one of these schemes and be a nuisance. Kind of like when the spy is hiding in the fake mailbox and people keep trying to put their mail into it.
     
  15. Sane Man

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    Cool. Another user to add to my block list. Thanks for the link.
     
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  16. eddiel

    eddiel Forum Resident

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    I think so. I noticed this seller a week or so ago. Although the m.o. is the same, the location is different. Dimagraphy was located in California IIRC. But I have found references to this seller using a different eBay name, located in NJ. Could be a team of people and when the heat is turned up they shut down and resurface.
     
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  17. Sane Man

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    I think so too. Looks too similar right down to the bolded font. If you look at the VU mono torso album, the sticker looks perfect with no evidence of wrinkling or raised marks from the glue drying out. Also, it's simply a stock copy with a DJ promo sticker that I've only seen from MGM on their third self titled album. Enough question marks that it's an easy avoid and block for me.
     
  18. TheVillageRecorder

    TheVillageRecorder Forum Resident Thread Starter

    The giveaway for me when it comes to the auctions by "hyrolspoti" are the perfectly placed hype sticker on each and every album.
     
  19. Led9

    Led9 Forum Resident

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    Sure looks like the same guy under a new name.
     
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  20. eddiel

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    It's incredible how much the bidding increases on the presence of a sticker. It's bizarre. I mean, it's cool when you find one out in the wild like that, but I wouldn't pay hundreds more just to have a sticker on the shrink (unless the sticker was really part of the cover or the release, like say the black shrink on the Wish You Were Hear Floyd release and even then there's a limit to how much more).
     
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  21. The Wall

    The Wall Well-Known Member

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    Yes, he most certainly is, although he seems to be cleaning his act up a bit. The last time I checked his feedback rating was something like 96.4,% and now I see it's up to 97.2! Plus he only has 46 negatives so far this month, a big improvement for him. What I don't understand is a) why ebay doesn't suspend his account; that much negative feedback reflects poorly on them IMO, and b) why on earth does anyone buy anything from him. "He's a terrible seller!" Well, duh, did you not notice that 1513 other people have said that same thing in the past 12 months. That was my first clue!
     
  22. Blackie

    Blackie Forum Resident

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    Which seller are you referring to?
     
  23. The Wall

    The Wall Well-Known Member

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    Oops. Was replying to Mirrorblade's comment re. Zuber
     
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  24. eddiel

    eddiel Forum Resident

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    Well he's maintaining his seller ratings so eBay doesn't really have a reason to kick him off. If you look at his raring he's hitting 4.5 stars on three categories and 5 on the last, shipping and handling. He's not scamming anyone or if he is, no one is really complaining about it. As long as he follows the rules and maintains his ratings to ebays minimum level required they won't kick him off.
     
  25. TheVillageRecorder

    TheVillageRecorder Forum Resident Thread Starter

    And Ebay is making money off him, so they tend to be more lenient with big sellers.
     
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