CTI Japan 2013 "Supreme Collection" Series (Direct from Masters- No EQ Added)

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by noname74, Dec 16, 2013.

  1. noname74

    noname74 We The North. Thread Starter

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  2. Wow, great news. I like this series.

    There are some nice titles in this third series. Will have to pick some of these up for sure.

    I found the Johnny Hammond "Wild Horses Rock Steady" album on vinyl recently (not in the best shape), and it is a great record. Really happy to see that it will be part of the new set, and I can highly recommend this album.
     
  3. leshafunk

    leshafunk Forum Resident

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    Great artist, what can I say! I have 4 of his CTI/Kudu albums, and the 5th (The Prophet) was never released on CD AFAIK.
     
  4. RiRiIII

    RiRiIII Forum Resident

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    Great record. IIRW, it was reissued as part of the 40th CTI anniversary series as well.
     
  5. Harry Hood

    Harry Hood Forum Resident

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    I like it, but I'm going for Higher Ground (1973) as his best one. Probably my second favourite CTI/Kudu release after Idris Muhammad's Power Of Soul.
     
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  6. Harry Hood

    Harry Hood Forum Resident

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    Just checked the list, with my fingers crossed...and yes!!! I've been trying to find those Hank Crawfords for years!
     
  7. Fred68

    Fred68 Loves Music

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    This latest batch includes the CD debut of two George Benson titles: Pacific Fire (outtakes from the Good King Bad sessions that are as good as the album proper), and Space, a live album.

    I'm a Benson completist (but only from 1963-1979), so I'm stoked for these, especially Pacific Fire.
     
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  8. liv3evil

    liv3evil Forum Resident

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    Thanks for the link! Good to know I should start saving now for December release.

    Always have to do two separate orders for all 40, as 30 items per-order is the limit @ CDJapan.

    Regardless of which versions of each individual CTI/kUDU album sound the best (I still prefer the brightness of the some of the 90s Epic / Legacy reissues, but those are what I 'grew up' with), at least having all 80 (soon to be 120) of these in my digital library makes for commonality when it comes to tonality and balance, which is generally very similar to the original LPs in my experience. If I make a playlist of one track from all 80 CDs, I won't have to ride the volume or EQ.

    I have a lot of CTI on vinyl, but with these releases and a good DAC, my default will be to go digital w/these JP releases.
     
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  9. leshafunk

    leshafunk Forum Resident

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    So you're giving up all the tasty bonus tracks on Epic/Legacy CDs.
     
  10. liv3evil

    liv3evil Forum Resident

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    I still keep a few duals in my library (notably "Sunflower" and "Stone Flower"). Sans the alt. take of 'Brazil' off "Stone Flower", I've never been so taken w/any of the alt. takes I've heard on the other reissues to be compelled to include dueling versions of the same albums.

    That said, if anyone wants to volley a list of must-have bonus tracks/alt. takes from the various CTI reissues over the past decade, I'm all eyes (and eventually ears). I have most of the 90s reissues, and all of the Masterworks Jazz releases.
     
  11. leshafunk

    leshafunk Forum Resident

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    Finally there's an add for the new series.
     
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  12. liv3evil

    liv3evil Forum Resident

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    Just received shipment of all 40 discs from the 3rd series. I noticed unwrapping them that they aren't Blu-spec like the prior two series. I don't really care about Blu-spec - especially since I'll just rip all of these and only occasionally play them physically - but it's kind of weird that this series doesn't match the others?

    Here's to (a lot) more Rhodes piano in my listening over the next couple of weeks... :righton:
     
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  13. noname74

    noname74 We The North. Thread Starter

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    All 40 in one shot? You're my new hero. At least until the next hero. :laugh:
     
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  14. Lonson

    Lonson agnostic Disestablishmentarianismist

    Yes interesting change. . . what I've heard of this batch sounds very good though.
     
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  15. liv3evil

    liv3evil Forum Resident

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    Technically all 40 in two shots; CD Japan (wisely?) limits orders to 30 units. So I split into 2x 20. Got a pretty good deal on semi-expedited shipping via DHL (I don't care about timeframe, but shipment tracking is nice when ordering overseas), so best to just get 'em all instead of piecemeal.

    Of course is they were more than 1K yen each, unlike most of the other items I'd like to buy via CD Japan, I would definitely not be able to otherwise afford such a large order.
     
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  16. Yesternow

    Yesternow Forum Resident

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    Big fan of Grover Washington (kudu period only!) here.
    Can someone point me out the best sounding versions of his CDs from that time ?
    Thanks
     
  17. Lonson

    Lonson agnostic Disestablishmentarianismist

    Though I'm not a fan per se and haven't heard these releases since the LP days, I would wager that the best sound would be those released in the CTI Supreme series or any in this latest 50th anniversary batch as these cds sound phenomenal and are the best digital versions of the titles I've heard whenever I can compare.
     
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  18. Yesternow

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    I was reading the thread backwards and saw several references to Idris - Power of soul. The name was familiar but had never listened to any of his albums.

    Finally after 20 days of forum a great finding! Loving the album.

    Funny that I was asking info from Grover Washington and he plays on this one.

    Lonson, thanks for your answer. I have to look harder. Only able to find "Mr Magic" for the moment.
     
  19. liv3evil

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    Washington also penned 'Loran's Dance' on "Power of Soul", which is an all-time favorite CTI/kUDU track of mine. I have listened to that track on repeat for hours at times. Everyone's playing on it is spot-on, notably Bob James.

    Similar to Seawind and Bob James, Grover Washington Jr.'s kUDU recordings aren't owned like the rest of the CTI/kUDU/Salvation recordings by Sony (USA) or King (JP); they are or were owned by Motown, and now Universal, I think?

    So, none of the Grover Washington, Jr. albums on kUDU are a part of any of the King JP reissue series.

    If memory serves, the Verve reissues from the 2000s sound fine. Mastered by Kevin Reeves.
     
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  20. Harry Hood

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    Woo-hoo, welcome aboard to the Power Of Soul fanclub! Where the hipsters scratch their chins, give barely perceptible nods to each other, lean back and just gently say "aaah".

    That's my favourite CTI/Kudu album, and I've championed it on various threads here. Loran's Dance gives me the fizz, and I'll take this version ahead of the one on Grover's Reed Seed. That's not one of his best albums either.

    Mister Magic and Feels So Good tend to get the best reviews (and you'll like them if you like this Idris album), but my Grover recommendation would go to the Soulbox cd release which compiles both vol's 1 & 2 of the original vinyl. The lengthy 10mins plus stretch-outs on Trouble Man and Masterpiece are the business!
     
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  21. Yesternow

    Yesternow Forum Resident

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    Every thread I go people share the same taste... What's going on ?

    My post from last friday (jazz & conversation thread):

    Yesternow
    Grover Washington Jr, SoulBox (1973)
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    This was a double LP, so nice to have it on a single CD. Masterpiece and Trouble Man are the ones I listen the most.

    Wish there was a box set for all his KUDU records.
     
  22. Harry Hood

    Harry Hood Forum Resident

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    This one's great, even though it was just a one off album. In fact, I've got a different version, titled Beck & Sanborn, which has 2 extra tracks, both of which are great. It's slick and funky, but Beck throws in some very nice guitar tones, a bit more rocky than usual maybe, and some delicious wah-wah. Ooooooh!

    Beck [Blu-spec CD] Joe Beck CD Album
     
  23. leshafunk

    leshafunk Forum Resident

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    12 days after the release, any hands-on experience?
    (I still hope to get mine this year)
     
  24. liv3evil

    liv3evil Forum Resident

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    I've ripped half of them; 20 more to go. Once I'm done ripping, it's going to be a smorgasbord! While scanning inserts and annotating I'm casually listening to a track here or there, but most of these releases are new to me, so I don't know what to expect. Especially the releases past circa 1976.

    That said, I did listen to Gabor Szabo's "Rambler" a few days ago, and I dug it a lot. I was never able to track it down in good condition on vinyl, or find it on CD until this series. As expected, it was very (CTI) vinyl-sounding. Maybe a little dull, muffled, or otherwise lacking in bright 'excitement', but I'd wager that's the sound of the original vinyl.

    I'm ripping in catalog order so I haven't gotten to it yet, but one CD I'm sure to audition against its vinyl counterpart is Milt Jackson w/Hubert Laws' "Goodbye". I know the original and the 2002 Legacy remaster well.

    I'm going to try to listen to a bunch of these between Xmas and New Years. Maybe I'll put the content of all 120 CDs on shuffle! Though I may never come back...
     
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  25. danomar

    danomar Well-Known Member

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    I love Power of Soul so much that I have two LP versions (different covers) as well as the first CD pressing.

    In case anyone is interested, Visit Venus (Mario von Hacht) sampled a part of "Piece of Mind" on his "First Man on the Moog" from Music for Space Tourism Vol. I. You can hear other nicely integrated samples from excellent jazz-funk artists in his other works, too.

    I have been trying to avoid getting duplicates, but these CTI releases are tempting me something awful...
     
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