David Bowie - Heroes 2017 fixed remaster

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by dtuck90, Oct 26, 2017.

  1. Steve Martin

    Steve Martin Wild & Crazy Guy

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    Plano, TX
    All the files are the same size as the previous release except all the tracks on the Heroes album, so they at least re-encoded that entire album. I haven't tried to see if there are any significant differences on any other tracks, but Amadeus Pro measured a few minute differences such as in Minimum RMS Power, etc. on the one I checked (Beauty and the Beast).
     
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  2. dtuck90

    dtuck90 Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    UK
    Ah right ok. HIghResAudio told me that the whole box set had been replaced but Heroes was the only one that was different. I’ll have to redownload the rest of the album
     
  3. TonyCzar

    TonyCzar Forum Resident

    Location:
    PhIladelphia, PA
    AcousticSounds wrote me Wednesday night with a notification. Just comparing the file sizes of the downloads, more has changed (possibly) than the title track. "Heroes", Neukoln, and Secret Life have all gained weight:

    Original release:

    09/29/2017 12:07 PM 149,760,743 12 - Beauty and the Beast (2017 Remastered Version).flac
    09/29/2017 12:07 PM 134,638,478 13 - Joe the Lion (2017 Remastered Version).flac
    09/29/2017 12:08 PM 261,125,030 14 - ''Heroes'' (2017 Remastered Version).flac
    09/29/2017 12:08 PM 140,678,522 15 - Sons of the Silent Age (2017 Remastered Version).flac
    09/29/2017 12:08 PM 165,085,630 16 - Blackout (2017 Remastered Version).flac
    09/29/2017 12:08 PM 134,004,937 17 - V-2 Schneider (2017 Remastered Version).flac
    09/29/2017 12:09 PM 157,135,196 18 - Sense of Doubt (2017 Remastered Version).flac
    09/29/2017 12:09 PM 198,482,693 19 - Moss Garden (2017 Remastered Version).flac
    09/29/2017 12:09 PM 177,792,896 20 - Neukoln (2017 Remastered Version).flac
    09/29/2017 12:09 PM 160,224,208 21 - The Secret Life of Arabia (2017 Remastered Version).flac


    Fresh download:

    11/10/2017 06:19 AM 149,760,743 12 - Beauty and the Beast (2017 Remastered Version).flac
    11/10/2017 06:19 AM 134,638,478 13 - Joe the Lion (2017 Remastered Version).flac
    11/10/2017 06:20 AM 263,487,543 14 - ''Heroes'' (2017 Remastered Version).flac
    11/10/2017 06:20 AM 140,678,522 15 - Sons of the Silent Age (2017 Remastered Version).flac
    11/10/2017 06:21 AM 165,085,630 16 - Blackout (2017 Remastered Version).flac
    11/10/2017 06:20 AM 134,004,937 17 - V-2 Schneider (2017 Remastered Version).flac
    11/10/2017 06:20 AM 157,135,196 18 - Sense of Doubt (2017 Remastered Version).flac
    11/10/2017 06:21 AM 198,482,693 19 - Moss Garden (2017 Remastered Version).flac
    11/10/2017 06:21 AM 177,890,225 20 - Neukoln (2017 Remastered Version).flac
    11/10/2017 06:21 AM 160,321,537 21 - The Secret Life of Arabia (2017 Remastered Version).flac
     
    Last edited: Nov 10, 2017
  4. TonyCzar

    TonyCzar Forum Resident

    Location:
    PhIladelphia, PA
    Again, vendor here is Acoustic Sounds


    HTML:
    foobar2000 1.3.16 / Dynamic Range Meter 1.1.1
    log date: 2017-11-10 06:57:58
    
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Analyzed: David Bowie / A New Career In A New Town (1977 - 1982)
              ORIGINAL SEPTEMBER RELEASE
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    DR         Peak         RMS     Duration Track
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    DR8       -0.30 dB    -9.89 dB      3:37 12-Beauty and the Beast (2017 Remastered Version)
    DR7       -0.30 dB    -8.80 dB      3:08 13-Joe the Lion (2017 Remastered Version)
    DR8       -0.30 dB    -9.72 dB      6:11 14-''Heroes'' (2017 Remastered Version)
    DR8       -0.30 dB    -9.08 dB      3:20 15-Sons of the Silent Age (2017 Remastered Version)
    DR8       -0.30 dB    -9.45 dB      3:50 16-Blackout (2017 Remastered Version)
    DR7       -0.30 dB    -9.01 dB      3:11 17-V-2 Schneider (2017 Remastered Version)
    DR10      -0.30 dB   -14.82 dB      4:00 18-Sense of Doubt (2017 Remastered Version)
    DR9       -0.30 dB   -12.96 dB      5:06 19-Moss Garden (2017 Remastered Version)
    DR11      -0.30 dB   -16.03 dB      4:35 20-Neukoln (2017 Remastered Version)
    DR8       -0.30 dB   -10.20 dB      3:47 21-The Secret Life of Arabia (2017 Remastered Version)
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    Number of tracks:  10
    Official DR value: DR8
    
    Samplerate:        192000 Hz
    Channels:          2
    Bits per sample:   24
    Bitrate:           5650 kbps
    Codec:             FLAC
    ================================================================================
    
    
    
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Analyzed: David Bowie / A New Career In A New Town (1977 - 1982)
              FIXED RE-RELEASE
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    DR         Peak         RMS     Duration Track
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    DR8       -0.30 dB    -9.89 dB      3:37 12-Beauty and the Beast (2017 Remastered Version)
    DR7       -0.30 dB    -8.80 dB      3:08 13-Joe the Lion (2017 Remastered Version)
    DR9        0.00 dB    -9.67 dB      6:11 14-''Heroes'' (2017 Remastered Version)
    DR8       -0.30 dB    -9.08 dB      3:20 15-Sons of the Silent Age (2017 Remastered Version)
    DR8       -0.30 dB    -9.45 dB      3:50 16-Blackout (2017 Remastered Version)
    DR7       -0.30 dB    -9.01 dB      3:11 17-V-2 Schneider (2017 Remastered Version)
    DR10      -0.30 dB   -14.82 dB      4:00 18-Sense of Doubt (2017 Remastered Version)
    DR9       -0.30 dB   -12.96 dB      5:06 19-Moss Garden (2017 Remastered Version)
    DR11      -0.30 dB   -16.03 dB      4:35 20-Neukoln (2017 Remastered Version)
    DR8       -0.30 dB   -10.20 dB      3:47 21-The Secret Life of Arabia (2017 Remastered Version)
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    Number of tracks:  10
    Official DR value: DR9
    
    Samplerate:        192000 Hz
    Channels:          2
    Bits per sample:   24
    Bitrate:           5650 kbps
    Codec:             FLAC
    ================================================================================
    
    
     
  5. karmaman

    karmaman Forum Resident

    and yet they didn't see fit to fix the buzz on this track.
     
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  6. TonyCzar

    TonyCzar Forum Resident

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    "It's a feature, not a buzz."
     
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  7. TonyCzar

    TonyCzar Forum Resident

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    +-6dB here, +-6dB there.

    Pretty soon, it adds up.
     
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  8. Limopard

    Limopard Forum Resident

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    Leipzig, Germany
    Still no fix on Qobuz...:(
     
  9. calgary669

    calgary669 Forum Resident

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    Calgary, Canada
    The unfixable track has been fixed!
     
  10. karmaman

    karmaman Forum Resident

    it's a buzz and it doesn't belong there.
    it adds up to a lost customer.
     
  11. Ben Adams

    Ben Adams Forum Resident

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    Phoenix, AZ, USA
    I'll have to check the Amazon Autorip when I get home from work ... unless anyone else already has?
     
  12. TonyCzar

    TonyCzar Forum Resident

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    Jokes! I'm playing Mr. Parlophone.
     
  13. fantailfan

    fantailfan Not the world's foremost expert

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    Boston, MA, USA
    Waveform looks the same to me. Ears notice it, too.
     
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  14. TonyCzar

    TonyCzar Forum Resident

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    PhIladelphia, PA
    Really? I don't recall the original Parlophone "Heroes" being this hot mess...

    [​IMG]
     
  15. Ben Adams

    Ben Adams Forum Resident

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    Phoenix, AZ, USA
    But that's a FLAC ... he was replying to my musing about the Amazon Autorip, which would be an MP3.
     
  16. TonyCzar

    TonyCzar Forum Resident

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    PhIladelphia, PA
    [Sigh] There's more than one way to fix an "Energy Drop", Joe Parlophone. Here's the September Song:

    [​IMG]
     
  17. karmaman

    karmaman Forum Resident

    yup, just caught me at the wrong moment... but i'm done with this label, and feeling better for it.
     
  18. Jim Foy

    Jim Foy Forum Resident

    I really appreciate all you guys updates and findings as I am eagrly awaiting news on the 'Heroes' replacement CD before I place my order for the box on Amazon.
    As Bowie's homepage is not updated with when the replacement CD will be available I would like to ask if any of you know anything?
    Thanks in advance.
     
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  19. That's because most folks unfortunately either didn't notice or complain. It is a pity because they could have fixed multiple problems.

    Sadly, pride in quality work has bitten the dust.

    Not yet.
     
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  20. SammyU

    SammyU Forum Resident

    Location:
    Atlanta, GA, USA
    Did you get the fixed Heroes file from HD Tracks?

    I purchased the set from HD Tracks as well when it was first released. Yesterday, I requested the fixed file from them. The responded by enabling my account to download the entire set again. I'll be happy to do so, provided the 'Heroes' track has been updated....they did not specific if this is the case.
     
  21. rrowley

    rrowley Forum Resident

    Location:
    Sunderland,UK
    Here's Qobuz reply to me...

    Hello,

    We received a new delivery. The problem is mitigated but still present .. It's the same thing on spotify!

    Sorry for the inconvenience.
     
  22. Steve Martin

    Steve Martin Wild & Crazy Guy

    Location:
    Plano, TX
    It has, has I said a page or two back.
     
  23. jon9091

    jon9091 Master Of Reality

    Location:
    Midwest
    So, they can’t figure out how to fix it? :laugh:
     
  24. Lewisboogie

    Lewisboogie Forum Resident

    Location:
    Colorado
    I received the boxed set from Amazon. Will I be able to get a replacement disc from Rhino when available then?
     
  25. LCM

    LCM New Member

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    FRANCE
    NO YES belongs : clearly modulated by the playing of the reed instrument
     
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