Dedicated Schiit Yggdrasil thread

Discussion in 'Audio Hardware' started by Hutch, Mar 26, 2015.

  1. Puma Cat

    Puma Cat Well-Known Member

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    Depends on what you mean by "perfect". When it comes functionality, its a relative term as there are virtually no "perfect" devices, functions, transformations, products, processes.

    Regarding "burn-in", many different classes of audio components require what is colloquially referrred to as "burn-in" or "run-in" to provide optimal functionality, performance, and sound quality including headphone and loudspeaker drive units, cables, tubes, stereo cartridge cantilevers, and electronic components. Loudspeakers, cables and electronics usually require the most "burn-in" or "running-in" with respect to loudspeaker drivers. In electronics, and cables, it is usually the capacitors and other components or materials that take time to burn-in, and depending on the number and types (composition) of those components or materials will determine the time it states for them to fully burn-in. For dielectrics, the burn-in time often correlates to the dielectric constant of the material, the higher the dielectric constant, the longer it takes. For example, for film capacitors, the burn-in times are, from shortest to longest: polystyrene>>polypropylene>>>>>Teflon. For cables, it is usually the composition of insulating materials (which are also dielectrics) e.g. foamed polyethylene or FEP that determines the time that cables take to "burn in".

    Regarding the burn-in time for Yggy, I refer you to Robert Harley's recent review in TAS:
    Schiit Audio Yggdrasil DAC. Yggy has a LOT of components, which directly correlates to it's burn-in time...

    "Listening
    Although Moffatt warned me that the Yggy wouldn’t sound good right out of the box, I gave it a quick listen anyway after an hour of warm-up. He was right; the Yggy was hard, bright, forward, and flat. I checked in with it a couple of times over the next week and heard it improving somewhat, but it was still disappointing. I decided to let it sit in my rack, powered up, for a full month before revisiting it."
     
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  2. Puma Cat

    Puma Cat Well-Known Member

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    Correct, from the reports I've read from end-users, the new Gen 5 USB and Schiit Eitr (which uses the new Gen 5 USB interface/implementation), both outperform the Singxer F-1.
     
  3. Puma Cat

    Puma Cat Well-Known Member

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    Eitr not only works, it works spectacularly well. I am going to post a small review of using it with my Schiit Modi 2 Uber DAC.
     
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  4. toddrhodes

    toddrhodes Forum Resident

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    I should have an Eitr here on Friday. I'll be feeding it USB from my W10 PC via Roon, then SPDIF into my Anthem Statement D2 which, to me has amazing an amazing DAC built-in considering it's in use for my vinyl playback and it sounds as "analog" as my old all-analog rig used to sound. I have to say, that fact alone has really softened my stance on "digital vs analog" since I'm basically bringing both worlds together in my system. Anyway, I'll put up a thread with my thoughts after a few weeks of listening to it (if I can put the records down long enough, lol). So far everything I've read has me giddy about the little box.
     
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  5. Robert C

    Robert C Forum Resident

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    I would expect a DAC in this price range to perfectly reconstruct the analogue signal in a way that is utterly transparent to the source from the word go.
    I'm stunned that someone would pay £2,000 for something that doesn't sound "good right out of the box". What happens if it doesn't 'burn in'? What happens if the resulting sound also isn't satisfactory?
     
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  6. Doug Walton

    Doug Walton Active Member

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    And what happens if it explodes?! Or if it morphs into Godzilla?!
     
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  7. Robert C

    Robert C Forum Resident

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    Or, more than likely, just stays the same from day 1.
     
  8. Puma Cat

    Puma Cat Well-Known Member

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    Ain't gonna happen.
     
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  9. Robert C

    Robert C Forum Resident

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    Prove it.
     
  10. Puma Cat

    Puma Cat Well-Known Member

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    Don't need to...

    Enjo your day! :cool:
     
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  11. DPC

    DPC Active Member

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    Received my Yggdrasil last week. Sounds nice; using my Rotel CDP as a transport.

    Wondering if anyone has tried (or seen) wood side panels. I have mine on a top shelf and thought a little wood bling may look cool (e.g. chechen or brazilian cherry) and matching the horizontal contour (roundover) of the enclosure.
     
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  12. Andre Dufour

    Andre Dufour New Member

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    Brodheadsville, PA
    Yggy Question

    2 days ago i just received STAX SR-009, Wood Audio Electrostatic AMP (WES), and Yggy in the mail.

    I'm using USB from a laptop to the yggy.

    My question: Do I need to manually install drivers from the Schiit site? I didn't have to install the software on my PC for it to recognize the Yggy (gen 5).

    Note: I've read that the WES, STAX and Yggy all need break-in. However, the setup still sounds absolutely fantastic to me.
     
  13. The latest version of Windows 10 now includes USB Audio Class 2 (UAC2) support. If you have a DAC that is UAC2 compliant (the Yggy is) you can plug it in and the OS will use the native UAC2 drivers built into the OS. No need for the manufacturer supplied drivers. You can still install the manufacturer supplied drivers if you want, but you probably won't need to.

    That's a nice headphone setup with the Stax.
     
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  14. Andre Dufour

    Andre Dufour New Member

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    Thanks Ham, much appreciated. I'm loving the sound. It's very, very neutral. A classic reference sound (just like the Senn 800).
     
  15. ribonucleic

    ribonucleic Well-Known Member

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    I see that the Ragnarok has the same 16 x 12 footprint as the Yggy. Would it be feasible to stack the former on top of the latter - or would there be ventilation issues?
     
  16. toddrhodes

    toddrhodes Forum Resident

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    I've seen 'em stacked many times. I'd probably try to do something to give the bottom unit some air - like ball bearings in furniture cups or something but that's not always practical.
     
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  17. mcbrion

    mcbrion Member

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    The Yggdrasil is - to my ears - better (by far) than the Bryston BDA-2 I had a few years ago. I never quite cottoned to the Bryston, although I could hear everything it was doing. The Yggdrasil is "invisible" enough, even when attached to a modest system, to be eye-opening.
    I used the stock cord, then went to an old ESP cord, then the Nordost Frey 2 power cord, Shunyata Alpha HC and Python ZiTron. In all cases, the Yggdrasil (and the rest of the system, of course) reflected the changes readily, which indicates a lack of a "character" to the component itself. I'm among the deeply satisfied owners of the unit. I will be taking it to a nearby dealer (in a month or so) and inserting it into his system to hear what it sounds like there.
     
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  18. dmckean

    dmckean Well-Known Member

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    San Diego, CA, USA
    Heads up for Yggdrasil owners, Schiit released a new analog board upgrade today. Supposedly improves the performance significantly.

    Yggdrasils that have shipped since mid-October onwards already have the upgraded board, you can check by looking to see that your serial number starts with the letter 'B'.
     
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  19. Kyhl

    Kyhl formerly known as Strabo

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    Recently having a GMB upgraded with the USB5 board I have to say that I am happy that they release upgrades to existing products instead of offering new and improved models that supplant prior models.
     
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  20. CoolJazz

    CoolJazz Active Member

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    Yggy upgrade ordered. #66 in the que. Looking forward to it!

    CJ
     
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