that's my impression on these and i have bought them all, though I have all the original cds too...they just sound so much better to my ears... not sure why people are calling them loud...they are in no way brickwalled which might be inferred.
Agreed. The remasters aren't brickwalled at all. The overall volume level is a bit higher than the original CDs, of course, but the dynamics are still intact. If you wanna see brickwalled Depeche Mode, pick up the Singles 81>85 and Singles 86>98 comps released in 1998 -- those were compressed to hell and brickwalled, with almost nonstop clipping. I haven't heard the SACD layer of the 2006/2007 hybrids, but the redbook layer's remastering is certainly not brickwalled or lacking in dynamics.
Here's a good place to get you started with the 2006-2007 remasters campaign. http://remasters.depechemode.com/ And no, they weren't only remastered on SACD. The US versions of the remasters actually had no SACD layer, and the European remasters were SACD hybrids (which had a CD layer that could be played on any player).
all my remasters are US 2 disc sets, 1 cd and 1 dvd... now the EU 2 disc sets are 1 SACD and 1 DVD.. so if you have SACD capability, and some dough to spare, those are worthy, but the DVDs would be PAL i would think...problematic if you need NTSC. the DVDs IMHO are amazing views.
Went ahead and checked my disc and sure enough it is there. weird, maybe my old SACD changer was dying when I played it....
Yes. They're louder than the pre-2006 discs, but as DJ Wilbur has said, they are anything but overdone/brickwalled. Some of the Black Celebration tracks really benefited from Heyworth's remastering.
I didn't call remasters "brickwalled", I called them "loud". There is a difference. Remasters (esp. SACDs) are good, but they have processed sound, clean and very digital, and original cds (esp. from 1981 to 1986) have so called "breath of life" for me. They are very smooth and music surrounds you, though it's only stereo. Mute recordings from 80's were greatly done and mastered and in my opinion remasters are worth only for 5.1 Don't get me wrong, they are very good, but you have to listen to originals.
i just pointed out earlier that some might infer the definition of "loud" as modern brickwalled which the remasters are not clearly as you are also stating, so anyone reading this thread needs to understand the newer versions are louder but the dynamics are intact and in no way are they compressed and must avoids. you used some adjectives when describing the remasters that often define Depeche Mode music for me...Clean and Processed, thats what they do IMHO. not sure how much breath of life can really reside in electronic music anyway, but I'm A/Bing and not really hearing this extra air on my system, anyway...we've both got various versions of their titles, we each prefer the opposites which is what makes this place so interesting... as long as people listen to DP, that's what counts...everything counts...
Are these reissues the same mastering as the first releases? If so I can get these in the used bins very simple.
Speak And Spell (INT 846.801)-Metallic blue stripe/Light blue stripe-11 Tracks New Life.wav 84.1 % Puppets.wav 100.0 % Dreaming Of Me.wav 100.0 % Boys Say Go.wav 100.0 % Nodisco.wav 85.8 % What's Your Name.wav 89.2 % Photographic.wav 97.5 % Tora! Tora! Tora!.wav 100.0 % Big Muff.wav 100.0 % Any Second Now (Voices).wav 76.9 % Just Can't Get Enough.wav 89.1 % Speak And Spell (INT 846.844),(INT 836.805)-16 Tracks New Life.wav 100.0 % I Sometimes Wish I Was Dead.wav 99.9 % Puppets.wav 100.0 % Boys Say Go!.wav 100.0 % Nodisco.wav 100.0 % What's Your Name .wav 99.4 % Photographic.wav 100.0 % Tora! Tora! Tora!.wav 100.0 % Big Muff.wav 94.4 % Any Second Now (Voices).wav 79.7 % Just Can't Get Enough.wav 100.0 % Dreaming Of Me.wav 100.0 % Ice Machine.wav 100.0 % Shout.wav 100.0 % Any Second Now.wav 100.0 % Just Can't Get Enough (Schizo Mix).wav 100.0 % More to follow.
A Broken Frame (INT 846.804)-Metallic blue stripe/Light blue stripe Leave In Silence.wav 100.0 % My Secret Garden.wav 93.4 % Monument.wav 100.0 % Nothing To Fear.wav 95.1 % See You.wav 100.0 % Satellite.wav 78.9 % The Meaning Of Love.wav 100.0 % A Photograph Of You.wav 100.0 % Shouldn't Have Done That.wav 95.3 % The Sun & The Rainfall.wav 96.6 % A Broken Frame (INT 836.806) Leave In Silence.wav 100.0 % My Secret Garden.wav 93.4 % Monument.wav 97.7 % Nothing To Fear.wav 93.0 % See You.wav 97.7 % Satellite.wav 77.1 % The Meaning Of Love.wav 97.7 % A Photograph Of You.wav 97.7 % Shouldn't Have Done That.wav 93.1 % The Sun & The Rainfall.wav 94.4 %
Construction Time Again (INT 846.807)-Metallic Blue Stripe Love,In Itself 79.4 % More Than A Party 81.2 % Pipeline 54.7 % Everything Counts 81.2 % Two Minute Warning 77.3 % Shame 66.8 % The Landscape Is Changing 81.2 % Told You So 83.1 % And Then... 78.9 % Everything Counts (Reprise) 52.2 % Construction Time Again (INT 846.807)-Light blue stripe,(INT 836.807) Love,In Itself 71.2 % More Than A Party 84.4 % Pipeline 61.9 % Everything Counts 79.7 % Two Minute Warning 61.9 % Shame 65.5 % The Landscape Is Changing 72.3 % Told You So 77.2 % And Then... 71.0 % Everything Counts (Reprise) 33.9 %
Some Great Reward (INT 846.812),(INT 836.808) Only one mastering for all Intercord-Releases: Something To Do 91.7 % Lie To Me 86.1 % People Are People 88.1 % It Doesn't Matter 71.9 % Stories Of Old 85.9 % Somebody 67.2 % Master And Servant 94.9 % If You Want 87.5 % Blasphemous Rumours 100.0 %
The Singles 81-85 (INT 846.817)-Metallic blue stripe/Light blue stripe Only one mastering for all Intercord-Releases: Dreaming Of Me 100.0 % New Life 95.5 % Just Can't Get Enough 93.8 % See You 100.0 % The Meaning Of Love 90.2 % Leave In Silence 100.0 % Get The Balance Right! 98.4 % Everything Counts 85.6 % Love,In Itself 87.5 % People Are People 85.3 % Master And Servant 90.4 % Blasphemous Rumours 100.0 % Somebody 76.0 % Shake The Disease 80.5 % It's Called A Heart 94.3 %
Picked up Music for the Masses on Sire today, in one of the charity record shops in Edinburgh today. Utterly delighted with it. Great album (if this didn't inspire Muse in places, I don't know what did) - a real find.
If it's the original and not the remastered version, tracks 11-14 are bonus tracks but not labelled as such, FWIW. The proper album ends with Pimpf.
The info on the rear of the jewel case mentions the four extra tracks, but is a US pressing. The cat no on the spine reads 9 25614-2, so am assuming this is an early WEA release as they labelled the later ones with the full "7599-..." afterwards?
I'm an idiot, I just have the remaster and when I looked at the original US CD on DepMod, I missed the four additional songs notation. I was looking for a "BONUS TRACKS" indicator in the track list. Not sure what you mean about the catalog number as 925614-2 is the only one I see on DepMod for the retail 14 track Sire CD.
Been playing their trilogy MFTM, V & SOFAD this christmas. What a great band... Have the 2006 remasters of all titles. They are loud, but still sound great!
