Digital Production vs Reel to Reel!?

Discussion in 'Audio Hardware' started by HDOM, Apr 27, 2018.

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  1. Schoolmaster Bones

    Schoolmaster Bones Poe's Lawyer

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  2. anorak2

    anorak2 Forum Resident

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    Long before CD, audiophiles used to prefer digitally mastered vinyl at 14 bits/32kHz sampling. Then when CD came out they were only satisfied with DDD. Measly AAD or ADD weren't good enough. Then they decided digital was all wrong. And even later that it was only barely acceptable at ridiculously oversampled sampling rates and bit depths. It all makes no sense.
     
  3. Schoolmaster Bones

    Schoolmaster Bones Poe's Lawyer

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    It actually makes perfect sense from an industry standpoint. Just follow the money.
     
  4. Chris Schoen

    Chris Schoen Rock 'n Roll !!!

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    Forget about the money, just play what you prefer. If someone offered me a cd plus some cash in trade for my record, I would not do it.
     
  5. That's exactely what I wanted to mean.
     
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  6. Randoms

    Randoms Aerie Faerie Nonsense

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    Really? Not how I remember it.
     
  7. Which system sounded better, the Sony or the Mitsubishi one?
     
  8. Randoms

    Randoms Aerie Faerie Nonsense

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    My Sony DATman ate the mix down master DAT tape. Pretty certain that this wasn't a one off!!
     
  9. HDOM

    HDOM Well-Known Member Thread Starter

    great
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    thanks
     
  10. HDOM

    HDOM Well-Known Member Thread Starter

    that is why it sound so great because sounds are change in air pressure
     
  11. HDOM

    HDOM Well-Known Member Thread Starter

    i understand
     
  12. HDOM

    HDOM Well-Known Member Thread Starter

    maybe if the music industri had not concentrate so much in digital music like it had done after the cd arrive we would had have a better analogue sound today ?
     
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  13. HDOM

    HDOM Well-Known Member Thread Starter

    i agreed with you but i belive no many music had been made all digital i mean from microphone to usb storage (all the music reproduction chain) and nowdays music is so tasteless in my opinion, like regaetoon, despacito etc :magoo:
     
  14. I think we've had great analog gear since the late 80's or early 90's, Dolby Spectral made a great difference as it got almost digital signal to noise ratio and dinamic range using analog tape recorders.
     
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  15. Grant

    Grant Life is a rock, but the radio rolled me!

    And, now that we have hi-rez digital that is equal to, or surpasses analog, we still have the anti-digital types. I think these people are just anti-computer, period. Cyberphobia
     
  16. HDOM

    HDOM Well-Known Member Thread Starter

    thank you very much for your information:tiphat:
     
  17. HDOM

    HDOM Well-Known Member Thread Starter

    even when i have vinyl recrds and cassette and like the sound, i feel it is after all a mechanic stuff, the plate of the vinyl it can never get so much perfect rotation year by years when a dac and digital music is like "perfect" for generations :magoo:
     
  18. DRM

    DRM Forum Resident

    For the great analog music and analog instruments of the Sixties and Seventies, which includes electric guitar and analog synths like the Moog...tape is best.

    For today's music utilizing a laptop and digital instruments, digital production and recording is best.

    Todd Rundgren's "Runddans" is the best digital recording I've heard yet.

    Per https://www.amazon.com/Runddans-Nik...2&sr=8-1-spell&keywords=todd+rundgren+rundans
     
  19. McLover

    McLover Senior Member

    Nashville liked Mitsubishi best. I agree with Nashville. I like analog a lot better.
     
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  20. Grant

    Grant Life is a rock, but the radio rolled me!

    It sounded "digital-like" too, which was a desirable trait back then.
     
  21. Grant

    Grant Life is a rock, but the radio rolled me!

    Michael Jackson's "Bad" album was recorded on a Mitsubishi. The engineer Bruce Swedien stated that he hated how digital made Michael's voice sound thin.
     
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  22. DRM

    DRM Forum Resident

    Whispery or reedy thin? Not full throated?
     
  23. The soundtrack for Jurassic Park, which was tracked and mixed down on analog tape using Dolby Spectral sounds nothing like digital.
     
  24. dkmonroe

    dkmonroe A completely self-taught idiot

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    I was surprised that I recognized the analog one easily. At one certain point in the analog recording, it just became very obvious and I was not expecting that. Very interesting test, thanks for sharing it!
     
  25. anorak2

    anorak2 Forum Resident

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    Digitally mastered vinyl was certainly an audiophile thing in the 1970s, it was considered on par with direct to disc, and superior to analogue masters.

    I admit misremembering the sampling rates used, because they were all over the place. 14/32 was NICAM (digital stereo audio for analogue terrestrial television). An early PCM recorder was 13/32, and there were numerous other combinations using bit depths below 16 and/or sampling rates in the 30s kHzs

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_recording
     
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