Discussion in 'Audio Hardware' started by LeeS, Oct 22, 2011.
Just curious what your thoughts are...
Do YOU believe that DAC and headphone amps benefit from some break-in?
I believe break-in is primarily if not exclusively psychological, so under that definition, sure, but your brain is what's breaking in, not the device.
I have an iPod. I listen exclusively to V0 MP3 files using the Apple in-ear dual diaphragm monitors. It sounds very nice. I shudder thinking back to the days of the Sony Walkman and how far we've come since then.
Those are my thoughts.
no. it's a computer. No break in. no warm up. nothin.
Ehh...im gonna resist this thread..I am...!!!....
Absolutely not. Total BS.
I've owned eight iPods (and paid for six iPhones in 4 years), and to me, a hard drive (or a flash drive) and its related circuitry either works or it doesn't. I've had one or two fail, but they failed a week after I bought them. All the others still work today; only the battery life is squirrely, not the sound performance.
I don't look at an iPod as a source for perfect sound. To me, it's just a source for casual music, like a (very high quality) Walkman cassette player in the 1980s. No more, no less. I expect it to sound decent -- not perfect.
A really great D/A converter is going to cost you twice as much as the most expensive iPod on the planet. But as-is, a $150 iPod sounds better today than an $800 portable cassette recorder did in the 1980s, assuming lossless or very high-bitrate files and great rips.
And NO again.
IC chips (read: 1's & 0's) dont break in..
its an on/off thing
I will join the no crowd. Speakers break in for sure and I will reluctantly add phono cartridges, but ipods? Robert
To be fair, an iPod has both a D/A converter in it and an analog amplifier (you don't hear ones and zeroes). So anyone claiming it's impossible for an iPod to break in had better also claim it's impossible for a solid state amplifier to break in to be intellectually honest.
iPhone has much better sound quality than any iPod IMO.
No, I don't believe there is any difference in the first hour or the last for an iPod.
Not in my experience. My iPhone sounds worse than my video iPod 5G and my Classic.
Fortunately the EQu app lessens the worst of the differences.
What's the problem? Are you sad you don't have an opinion on the matter?
I think anything with a transducer (microphone, speaker, or phono cartridge) will change over time, so in that sense, there is a break-in period. But I don't think it stops breaking in -- I think it changes over a long period of time and continues to deteriorate. I don't think they just get to a point and stop.
I know for a fact that most vacuum tubes need to warm up, so that'd be another potential "break in" candidate. But I'm very skeptical about solid state gear and hard drives. I believe Leigh above is right when he said "break-in is primarily if not exclusively psychological," and that the real break-in happens when you get used to something in your own head.
I wonder how stable the battery is for the first couple of charge discharge cycles? Power supply stability can have an effect on the sound. Possibly even more of an effect if you're driving headphones from the headphone jack rather than through the dock connector and an external amp. Does the iPod's internal power saving management need a couple of charge discharge cycles to settle?
Can there be break-in on an iPod? In Mythbusters style, I'll go with plausible. I've never tried to listen for break-in of an iPod.
There is a break-in as documented in this video:
to be fair, you're stating that an ipod is only capable of analog output.
Certain docks, such as the Wadia 170i Transport, plucks the iPod's digital output, bypassing the player's internal digital to analog converters (DACs).
ipod digital out = no break in period.
I have built many SS phono preamps and as much as I did not want to admit break-in for a solid state device, now I know different. However I don't think an IPOD player will have enough resolution to show break-in.
Think Jobs is rolling in his grave now? or is ANY publicity good publicity.
That strikes me as likely. I don't remember experiencing any improvement in the sound quality with mine - always enjoyable but not outstanding.
The OP talked about the iPod having a break-in time, not "a Wadia-attached iPod being used as a digital transport."
I would venture that for 99.9% of the people using iPods, they are using the analog out through a pair of earbuds. And hence, 99.9% of people are listening to the "sound" of the iPod's internal amplifier. I somehow doubt you have a hard time understanding this.
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