Doobie Brothers Stampede on cd

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by btomarra, Jun 4, 2011.

  1. btomarra

    btomarra Extreme Member

    Location:
    Little Rock, AR
    This is one of my favorite Doobie Brothers albums with Take Me in Your Arms, Sweet Maxine and I Cheat the Hangman.

    What is the best mastering on cd of this album? :help:


    Thank you.
  2. ShallowMemory

    ShallowMemory Forum Resident

    Location:
    GB
    I have the 2006 Japanese mini lp and love the sound on it. Don't have a n other to compare with I'm afraid.
  3. MYKE

    MYKE Awaiting The Fellow In The Bright Nightgown

    Hey Brian,

    My Warner Bros. 2835-2 just repeats the credits on my original 1975 vinyl.

    Donn Landee @ WB.
  4. btomarra

    btomarra Extreme Member

    Location:
    Little Rock, AR
    Myke,

    Thank you. Sounds like I should just get the WB cd. Pretty cheap, too.
  5. Electric Bozo

    Electric Bozo Active Member

    Location:
    Chesapeake, VA
    Heads-up - all CD versions of Stampede have a slightly edited version of "Neal's Fandango." No explanation why, but the trim is during the final portion of the track.
  6. wayneklein

    wayneklein Deus Irae

    I prefer the Japanese remaster from 2006. I was hoping that Mofi would do this title (and correct the trim problem) but it appears for the time being they are done with the Doobies.

    Maybe AF would consider doing this.
  7. davers

    davers Well-Known Member

    Great question. Interestingly, I rarely see this title in the used bins.

    On a related note, does anyone know when this title was first issued on cd in the US? My copy of Stampede looks to be a 1990 or later pressing, and I've never seen any copies with the earlier "SRC-01" style matrix in the hub.

    Presumably "Greatest Hits" and "Minute By Minute" were the first Doobies titles issued on cd because they were among the batch of early West German and/or Japan target pressings. Other titles were likely issued in the mid-late 80s, as I have early SRC pressings for most of their 70s catalog. "Stampede" seems to have come out later, but maybe I just haven't come across any 80s pressings?
  8. btomarra

    btomarra Extreme Member

    Location:
    Little Rock, AR
    Thank you for the heads up
  9. eelkiller

    eelkiller Prime contender

    Location:
    Northern Ontario
    Question 1 - Is there more than one mastering? I only have the Japan Mini LP and it is OK but not great. I forget if there is a mastering credit listed in the liner notes. If it is a remaster as Wayne suggests I may buy a bargain basement domestic disc to compare.

    Question 2 :) - Is the Long Train Running box set version of Neal's Fandango also the edit?
  10. wayneklein

    wayneklein Deus Irae

    I'll check my boxed set and report back as I've got it on "Neal's Fandango" I seem to remember that it is the full version but I haven't listened to it in a little while.

    The domestic master is a different mastering. It's dirt cheap (which is good) and, to the best of my knowledge, was never remastered for the U.S. market. It's certainly more dynamic and less compressed but it's also (at least to my ears) a bit murky sounding.

    Curiously, there's no mastering credit for the new issue and the original mastering credit for the original CD is carried over from the vinyl IIRC.

    It would be worthwhile to compare the two asyou might like the original mastering for CD. I like the improved clarity on the remaster but you're right--it's not perfect and is a bit brighter than the original.

    This is one of the reasons I was hoping that Mofi would get to this as this is one of my favorite Doobie albums.

    If you're a fan of Bill Inglot and Dan Hersh I believe they worked on the boxed set, if you're not then you may want to be a bit cautious.
  11. MYKE

    MYKE Awaiting The Fellow In The Bright Nightgown

    :agree:
  12. Electric Bozo

    Electric Bozo Active Member

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    Chesapeake, VA
    Just checked "Neal's Fandango" from the LTR box, and it also is the shortened version. On the original release, the vamp at the end of the song after the final chorus plays twice. The edit removes one of the passages.
  13. eelkiller

    eelkiller Prime contender

    Location:
    Northern Ontario
    I have the box set Wayne, but since I am away on business I could not check it for the duration of the song. FWIW I like the sound and rarities on the Rhino Box BUT unfortunatly they included stuff from the One Step Closer album and beyond. That I could do without. :)



    Thanks to Electric Bozo for checking the box set time.
  14. jhw59

    jhw59 Well-Known Member

    IMO, 06 Japanese a sonic improvement over the original. A multi-channel release would be a dream.
  15. btomarra

    btomarra Extreme Member

    Location:
    Little Rock, AR
    thank you also for checking. I just ordered the regular cd and I'll check it out when it arrives for SQ. thanks to all so far for weighing in here.
  16. evad

    evad Well-Known Member

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    I have Japan WPCR-75028 released in 2005. It is a jewel case CD. Sounds very good to me compared to the original.

    Regarding Neal's Fandango, what am I looking for? Shortened version? How can I tell.
  17. MYKE

    MYKE Awaiting The Fellow In The Bright Nightgown

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  18. johnHS

    johnHS Well-Known Member

    Location:
    North Carolina
    Just checked my copy and it's a "SRC-01".
  19. MYKE

    MYKE Awaiting The Fellow In The Bright Nightgown

    SRC-04 here.
  20. hominy

    hominy Forum Resident

    Was the entire Doobie Catalog remastered during the making of the box set for individual releases or are those remasters exclusive? I like the sound of the box set a lot.
  21. Todd W.

    Todd W. A beautiful woman continued.....

    Location:
    Maryland
    I agree with you on the sound of the box set. The box set was 1999 and I don't believe any remasters were released then. I know Mobile Fidelity released The Captain and Me, Toulouse Street and Takin' it to the Streets on hybrid SACD about a year ago. I'm thinking the Japanese imports were 2006? I don't know if that helps or not. I'm still waiting on Vices. It is my favorite Doobies!
  22. eelkiller

    eelkiller Prime contender

    Location:
    Northern Ontario

    It would have been nice to get S/T through Stampede redone but they were not.
  23. pool_of_tears

    pool_of_tears Maven Of Rare Earth

    Location:
    Eastern Iowa
    The catalog still features the same mastering as from the late 80's/early 90's. They sound quite good imo. Sure, Steve could do a hell of a job on them. But most of those old Warner cd's were mastere by Lee Herschberg and he did a great job.
  24. pool_of_tears

    pool_of_tears Maven Of Rare Earth

    Location:
    Eastern Iowa
    They don't need it.
  25. Dam

    Dam Active Member

    Location:
    Australia
    I have a German cd pressing, 7599 87289-2 and a ? first Japan cd pressing, WPCP-3165! They both sound the same [good] to me and have the same EAC peak levels.