Cripes. The Doors of Perception Confusion. (This list is incredibly thorough...kudos. I just mean this seems like WAY too many series of muddily-messaged reissues)
L.A. Woman 40th Deluxe 2cd: Disc #1 is the original mix taken from the 1999 hdcd But check this out, the booklet has in error -the tracks listing times for the 2007 LAW re-mix. You would think that a set titled 40th Anniv would include the 2007 remix, but it doesn't. Does anybody have an LAW deluxe disc#1 that has the 2007 re-mix.?
1985 The Best of The Doors 2cd Fatboy case Elektra 60345-2 This should on the list as it was the first Doors cd compilation and is compiled from the first digital transfers in 1985
No, that is the thing, the CD's are exact replicas of the 1988 CD's. What I misremembered though is that since the the inlay card was changed it is different on the back as well so there are updated 1999 credits there (but the catalogue number is still the same as the old one). It might be that the booklet is different as well with new credits. Maybe someone that has one of these can check if the booklet is updated with remastering credits? So the effect of this is that they look like the old CD's in new packaging, until you play them. Here is an example from Discogs for "Waiting For The Sun": 1988:http://www.discogs.com/viewimages?release=368687 1999: http://www.discogs.com/viewimages?release=1454926 So note that all the European 1999 remasters have the same catalogue numbers as the 1988 CD's.
It is on the list. I'll add the catalogue number. How is this? I can add it to the bottom of the 2001 single CD reissues. 2001 -Single CD issue of 1999 The Complete Sudio Recordings (Cube) HDCD - original mix - Remastered from the original 2 track masters to 96kHz 24 bit by Bruck Botnick and Bernie Grundman at Bernie Grundman Mastering, Hollywood, California, U.S.A., August 1999 - no bonus tracks The Doors - 74207-2 ("Break On Through" has high/"The End" has F-bombs) Strange Days - 4014-2 Waiting For The Sun - 74024-2* (time?) The Soft Parade - 75005-2* (33:54) Morrison Hotel - 750007-2 L.A. Woman - 75001-2 (48:51) Essential Rarities - E2 62530 *some pressings may mistakenly use the non-HDCD 1988 masterings for The Soft Parade (33:50) and Waiting For The Sun (**:**). The 1988 Waiting For The Sun has the wrong vocal take on "Wintertime Love" ("trying desperately to be free" is not correct; "trying so desperately to be free" is correct.) The European versions use the same catalog number as earlier masterings. The correct versions can be identiied by the clear plastic tray and a grey inlay card that said "Digitally Remastered" along the edge. The updated 1999 credit is on the back. HDCD not printed.
Yes, that looks good, maybe you could add that the CD's themselves are visually identical to the earlier mastering? This fooled me into thinking they were not remasters when they came out (so I passed on them, only learning after they were long out of print that they were in fact remasters in disguise). I am still curious to know what masterings are on the 2012 Rhino Flashback CD's? 40th remixes, '99 remasters or old '88 masterings? I was hoping "Waiting For The Sun" and "Soft Parade" would turn out to be the 1999 masterings I am still missing, but probably no such luck. These Flasback reissues often have old masterings, so are they all the 1988's again? Is it established that "Waiting For The Sun" has the '88 mastering, while stating erroneously on the back that it is the 40th remixes?
Okay. The European versions use the same catalog number as earlier masterings. The correct versions can be identiied by the clear plastic tray and a grey inlay card that said "Digitally Remastered" along the edge. The updated 1999 credit is on the back. HDCD not printed on the artwork. The CD face for the 1999 remasters are identical to earlier pressings. Are the original CDs silver faced or do they have coloured paint? My copy of the 1999 "The Soft Parade" has a red face. Does each album have a different colour? RingoStarr said "Waiting For The Sun" is the '88 with the wrong vocal take on "Wintertime Love." KeithH has a few titles, including "WFtS," and can double check.
Very good investigative work going on in this thread. Makes me glad I never purchased any of the box sets post 1997. Hopefully the catalog will get restored in a more cohesive fashion with much less confusion.
Updated. Sorry if I missed something. Let me know. Any catalogue numbers, etc. to add+ 1983 - mastered by Bernie Grundman Alive She Cried 1985 - original mix - no mastering credit The music on this Compact Disc was originally recorded on analog equipment. We have attempted to preserve, as closely as possible, the sound of the original recording. Because of its high resolution, however, the Compact Disc can reveal limitations of the tape source. The Doors Strange Days Waiting For The Sun - "We Could Be So Good Together" 2:09 Morrison Hotel L.A Woman The Soft Parade is not part of this series - original mixes - mastered by Bruce Botnick at Digital Magnetics, Los Angeles, CA. The Best Of The Doors (60345-2) 1987 The music on this Compact Disc was originally recorded on analog equipment. We have attempted to preserve, as closely as possible, the sound of the original recording.Because of its high resolution, however, the Compact Disc can reveal limitations of the tape source. Live At The Hollywood Bowl 1988 - original mix - mastered by Paul A. Rothchild, Bruce Botnick and The Doors The Doors Strange Days Waiting For The Sun ( "Wintertime Love" has wrong vocal take) The Soft Parade Morrison Hotel L.A. Woman 1991 - original mix This recording has been digitically remastered from the Original Master Tapes for superior sound quality by Paul A. Rothchild, Bruce Botnick and The Doors. In Concert Comprised of live recordings previously found on "Absolutely Live," "Alive She Cried" and "Live At The Hollywood Bowl" with the exception of 'The End', until now unavailable on record. 1993 DCC - Initial master tapes prepared by Bruce Botnick - 24 Karat Gold engineering director: Steve Hoffman - CD prep: Kevin Gray The Doors - GZS-1023 Strange Days - GZS-1026 LA Woman - GZS-1034 Waiting For The Sun - GZS-1045 1995 An American Prayer - Jim Morrison / music by The Doors (61812-2) Greatest Hits (Canada: WTVD 61860; Germany 61860-2) 1996 - original mix - remastered by Paul A. Rothchild, Bruce Botnick and The Doors. Absolutely Live 1997 Box Set - mastered by Bruce Botnick http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~jt8j-mtok/010515f.htm#C08 1999 The Complete Studio Recordings (aka The Cube) HDCD http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~jt8j-mtok/010515f.htm#C09 - original mix - no bonus tracks - Remastered from the original 2 track masters to 96kHz 24 bit by Bruck Botnick and Bernie Grundman at Bernie Grundman Mastering, Hollywood, California, U.S.A., August 1999 The Doors - (26434-A) - "Break On Through" has high/"The End" has F-bombs Strange Days (26434-B) Waiting For The Sun (26434-C)* - time and EAC? The Soft Parade (26434-D)* - 33:54 - EAC: all 98.9% Morrison Hotel (26434-E) L.A. Woman (26434-F) 48:51 Essential Rarities (26434-G) Titles released as single CDs in 2001 Cube reissued as a Long Box in 2003 *some pressings may mistakenly use the non-HDCD 1988 masterings for The Soft Parade (33:50) and Waiting For The Sun (**:**). The 1988 Waiting For The Sun has the wrong vocal take on "Wintertime Love" ("trying desperately to be free" is not correct; "trying so desperately to be free" is correct.) Incorrect masterings have not been reported for the original 1999 The Complete Studio Recordings at this time. 2000 L.A. Woman - DVD-Audio - 62612-9 - original mix + 5.1 surround mix - Mastered by Bruce Botnick at 96 khz/24 bit resolution. - DVD-A - 5.1 produced & mixed by Bruce Botnick from the original 8-track analog masters - Audio authoring and mastering supervisor, Al McPherson. - Mixing studio, Bernie Grundman Mastering. - Photo Gallery, Lyrics, Bio, Video "The Changeling" 2001 Single CD issues from the 1999 The Complete Sudio Recordings - HDCD - original mix - no bonus tracks - Remastered from the original 2 track masters to 96kHz 24 bit by Bruck Botnick and Bernie Grundman at Bernie Grundman Mastering, Hollywood, California, U.S.A., August 1999 The Doors - (74207-2) - "Break On Through" has high/"The End" has F-bombs Strange Days (74014-2) Waiting For The Sun (74024-2)* - The Soft Parade (75005-2)* - 33:54 - EAC: all 98.9% Morrison Hotel (750007-2) L.A. Woman (75001-2) 48:51 Essential Rarities (E2 62530) *some pressings may mistakenly use the non-HDCD 1988 masterings for The Soft Parade (33:50) and Waiting For The Sun (**:**). The 1988 Waiting For The Sun has the wrong vocal take on "Wintertime Love" ("trying desperately to be free" is not correct; "trying so desperately to be free" is correct.) The European versions use the same catalog number as earlier masterings. The correct versions can be identiied by the clear plastic tray and a grey inlay card that said "Digitally Remastered" along the edge. The updated 1999 credit is on the back. HDCD not printed on the artwork. The CD face for the 1999 remasters are silver and identical to earlier pressings. 2003 - Long Box reissue of The Complete Studio Recordings - HDCD (see: 1999 release for details) *some pressings may mistakenly use the non-HDCD 1988 masterings for The Soft Parade (33:50) and Waiting For The Sun (**:**). The 1988 Waiting For The Sun has the wrong vocal take on "Wintertime Love" ("trying desperately to be free" is not correct; "trying so desperately to be free" is correct.) 2006 Perception - 40th Anniversary Box (with bonus tracks) - CD + DVD-A - Mastered by Bruce Botnick - CD: original mix - 1999 Botnick/Grundman HDCD remasters from "The Cube" (bonus tracks mastered for the first time) - DVD: 2 channel 40th Anniversary remix/5.1 DTS encoded surround sound mix. - track listings and bonus tracks: http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~jt8j-mtok/010515f.htm#C18 The Doors (CD: original mix "Break On Through" has high/"The End" has F-bombs -- DVD remix: speed corrected "Light My Fire") Strange Days Waiting For The Sun The Soft Parade Morrison Hotel L.A. Woman - reissued in 2007 without the peephole on the box. - The remixes from the DVD were released individually on CD in 2007 2007 Remix versions from the 2006 40th Anniversary Perception box with bonus tracks - CD text. - Remix produced, engineered and mixed by Bruce Botnick - Mastered by Bruce Botnick at Uniteye, Ujai, CA The Doors (Canada: R2 101184) Strange Days (Can: R2 101183) Waiting For The Sun (Can: R2 101191) The Soft Parade (Can: R2 101187; US: 8122-79998-2) Morrison Hotel (Can: R2 101173) L.A. Woman (Can: R2 101155) 2009 Audio Fildelity 24 karat gold CD - HDCD - original mix - mastered by Steve Hoffman The Soft Parade (AFZ 038-2) bonus track: The Soft Parade (40th Anniversary remix) Morrison Hotel (AFZ 037-2) bonus track: Roadhouse Blues (40th Anniversary remix), Waiting for the Sun (40th Anniversary remix) - matrix for corrected version is: $AFZ037 B9A14N (mastering SID code: IFPI L532) 2011/09/28 The Doors - Hybrid SACD (Japan - WPCR-14174) - 2006 40th Anniversary remix and 5.1 surround sound - speed corrected "Light My Fire" 2011 (released 1/12) L.A Woman - 40th Anniversary Edition 2 CD set - Original mix - mastered by Bruck Botnick - disc 1 - original album - HCDC - disc 2 - mixed by Bruck Botnick - not HDCD Disc 2: (Previously Unreleased) 1. The Changeling (Alternate Version) 2. Love Her Madly (Alternate Version) 3. Cars Hiss By My Window (Alternate Version) 4. L.A. Woman (Alternate Version) 5. The WASP (Texas Radio and the Big Beat) (Alternate Version) 6. Been Down So Long (Alternate Version) 7. Riders On The Storm (Alternate Version) 8. She Smells So Nice 9. Rock Me - disc 1 mastering appears to be a slightly tweaked version of the 1999 mastering. http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/doors-cd-confusion.338514/page-8#post-9864430 2012 Rhino Flashback series mixes/mastering? The Doors Strange Days Waiting for the Sun (R2-531886) ( "Wintertime Love" has wrong vocal take) The Soft Parade Morrison Hotel L.A. Woman 2013 Hybrid SACD http://www.analogueproductions.com/index.cfm?do=search - original mix + 5.1 surround mix - mastered by Doug Sax "The surround sound program on the Doors SACDs comes from the original 96K, 24-bit files mixed and mastered by Bruce Botnick for the DVD-Audio Perception release." "[mastered] from the original analog masters by Doug Sax, with the exception of The Doors, which was made from the best tape copy." "The Doors self-titled 1967 release famously contains some incorrect speed and pitch issues. While there have been "corrected" versions made, in the interests of being historically accurate, this Analogue Productions reissue was cut without speed or pitch correction." The Doors Strange Days Waiting For The Sun The Soft Parade Morrison Hotel L.A. Woman Infinite - box with all six SACD - http://www.analogueproductions.com/index.cfm?do=detail&Title_ID=83212 The Doors Japan CD releases. http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/doors-cd-confusion.338514/page-8#post-9867121
I bought all the 2001 HDCDs individually a few years ago. All were correct except The Soft Parade had the old mastering and wasn't HDCD. I complained to Dr. Rhino and he sent me one of the mini-LP Soft Parade's from the Complete Studio Recordings set (26434-D, running time 33:53)....and it also had the old mastering. I just gave up at that point.
I think so far only "Waiting For The Sun", "The Soft Parade" and "Morrison Hotel" have been released as Rhino Flashback (and those didn't come out all at once, but months apart, in that order, so maybe the rest will follow).
After the 1999 studio albums Cube box came out I remember people posting on alt.music.the-doors about the indicator or light on their HDCD player not showing The Soft Parade CD as HDCD encoded. This pissed off quite a few people. Plus the Cube packaging got complaints as well (hard to get the discs out without damaging the sleeves). This and lack of money halted all my Door's purchases for the most part except for a few used items and I don't even have an HDCD player.
Did these turn out to be the 1988 original mastering included in the first release of the 1999 Cube set? A member has the wrong mastering (along with "Waiting For The Sun") in his 2003 reissue Long Box. Okay. Keith has these and will check them out when he gets a chance.
According to pics posted on Amazon, the cube contains mini-LPs. I assume the long box version uses the same as that's where I think the replacement sent to me was from. No barcode.
I have the cube. They're mini-LPs. I'm pretty sure that the long box has jewel cases. There were some complaints from fans that it was difficult to slide the mini-LPs out of the cube box resulting in wear and tear to the mini-LP covers.
One more for your list. All 6 studio albums on CD with the 2006/07 40th Anniversary Mixes but with no bonus tracks in a small box set called Collection, issued in 2011. See here: http://www.amazon.com/Collection-Do...&ie=UTF8&qid=1388992790&sr=1-8&keywords=doors
Thanks. The 1999 Cube and 2003 Long Box have mini-LPs and the individual 2001 CD releases have jewel cases. Is this correct? Thanks. 2006 Perception - 40th Anniversary Box (with bonus tracks) - CD + DVD-A - Mastered by Bruce Botnick - CD: original mix - 1999 Botnick/Grundman HDCD remasters from "The Cube" (bonus tracks mastered for the first time) - DVD: 2 channel 40th Anniversary remix/5.1 DTS encoded surround sound mix. - track listings and bonus tracks: http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~jt8j-mtok/010515f.htm#C18 The Doors (CD: original mix "Break On Through" has high/"The End" has F-bombs -- DVD remix: speed corrected "Light My Fire") Strange Days Waiting For The Sun The Soft Parade Morrison Hotel L.A. Woman - reissued in 2007 without the peephole on the box. - The remixes from the DVD were released individually on CD in 2007 with bonus tracks and in 2011 as The Collection without bonus tracks. 2011 The Collection (UK) - Reissue of 2006 40th Anniversary remixes without bonus tracks - Mastered by Bruce Botnic - Original artwork in replicated paper sleeves The Doors Strange Days Waiting For The Sun The Soft Parade Morrison Hotel L.A. Woman
Here is another UK compilation. The track listing doesn't have the uaual suspects and looks quite intersting. Does anyone have this comp? 2008 mastering/mix? The Platinum Collection (Rhino/Warner Special Market UK) http://www.amazon.com/Platinum-Coll...624&sr=1-1&keywords=Platinum Collection doors 1. Moonlight Drive 2. Soul Kitchen 3. Bird of Prey 4. Take It as It Comes 5. You're Lost Little Girl 6. My Eyes Have Seen You 7. The Wasp (Texas Radio and the Big Beat) 8. Summer's Almost Gone 9. The Spy 10. Tell All the People 11. Queen of the Highway 12. Shaman's Blues 13. Hyacinth House 14. Cars Hiss by My Window 15. Love Street "Bird Of Prey" is a bonus track from An American Prayer. 2011 A Collection (UK) - Reissue of 2006 40th Anniversary remixes without bonus tracks - Mastered by Bruce Botnick - Original artwork in replicated paper sleeves The Doors Strange Days Waiting For The Sun The Soft Parade Morrison Hotel L.A. Woman
