Doors: New Orleans 12/12/70 Tape

There is very little money to be made in bootlegs these days, and it was the bootleggers who often drove the prices of those private tapes.

Wolfgang's Vault has also significantly diminished the value of a lot of private tapes, since they have professionally recorded tapes for a lot of performers on dates similar to those often offered.

 

$10K might be a steal, but in this era, it is hard to imagine tapes being worth huge money. Archival sets have sales limitations at retail. Paying huge money for a tape makes it unlikely that a label can break even on a package that may not sell big numbers. How many hardcore Doors fans are out there? My understanding is that most BMA titles are not big sellers. Even if you include a rarity like New Orleans as part of a larger, pricey mainstream set, that still doesn't guarantee significant sales. WB apparently couldn't even justify releasing a large-scale LA Woman set under the current retail climate. I think there are real limitations as to what can be done with the New Orleans tape at retail if the idea is fronting big money for acquisition and then creating a package that can recoup acquisition and production costs. Tape holders often have a very misguided view as to how much their tapes are worth.

 

You may be right. But in that case, the owner should just consign it to an auction house...Given that the tape has never circulated, and given the historic significance of the set, I would be shocked if he couldn't get at least $10k for it if the sound quality is good. There are lots of well-heeled collectors who would love to have something like that. The non-circulation of the tape, ever, is the big point here.

 

I am not talking about the bootleg market, but items that only have one owner or trade amongst the very, very, very few.

 

I have a copy of this. I'd love to see an official release. It's another example of aggressive Moon Era stuff.

 

You have a copy of the New Orleans tape????

 

Probably just the audience tape.

 

There is an audience tape of N.O.?

 

Cool vid - thanks for the post.

 

Sorry, but I don't have any information about the production of the video.

 

I believe he is talking about the bland mono soundboard of The Who's '71 show at the Warehouse, which has been on bootleg cd for years now.

 

here's a couple of links about the New Orleans warehouse.
i posted them in the thread that mysteriously disappeared a few days ago.
hope it wasn't my doing!lol.
http://www.blackstrat.net/

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/jessycale/a-warehouse-on-tchoupitoulas

 

Wolfgangs Vault/Bill Grahams archive also have several of these audio soundboards from this period streaming.
so hopefully more will turn up for listening to eventually.

 

BMA sales were tough to gauge because of lack of download options for many years and wonky shipping rates for anyone outside the US. I know of Vancouver fans who attended the original show who balked at the shipping rates of the Vancouver 1970. The label paid them BIG money for those 12 shows recorded for Ab-Live.

Many fans think there was more to the story on the LAW box cancellation with nothing to do with potential sales. It's very uncharacteristic of that band to dump so much in one go when for decades they only parcelled out crumbs at a time from the vault for us fans to lap up.

Online collecting has made lots of stuff "common" but it also means uncirculated stuff has crazy demand if it's really desirable.

Ex-sound guys that are holding tapes don't do that because there's a legal grey area regarding ownership. But an auction would be very interesting. Some unreleased mid 70's Stevie Wonder studio cuts(rough mix downs only) ended up in the hands of a collector when it was auctioned.

The Orleans tape holders contact information was published on a Doors forum and he gave a $100,000 figure to discourage fan inquiries. It's worth way over $10,000, but the Doors won't open their wallets or refuse fan funding offers. Do a run of Diltz prints signed by the 3 band members and you could raise $100,000 very quickly but no dice. Maybe if the Veronica Mars trend removes the stigma they'd be amendable to the idea.

Don't think they've ever bought a tape from a complete stranger. Matrix was to stop a lawsuit, Whiskey(*) was a Ray friend and Vancouver/Seattle/Bakersfield were from their old Roadie.

*Remember Jampol said it would be out by March 2013. That interactive thing never came out.

There's no legal value if the artist puts up a roadblock. Plus nobody knows the quality.

There's debate regarding the length of this show and how much is the band playing with an unresponsive/drunk Jim.

 

A thread about this a few years ago.
http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threa...-color-photos-last-show-with-morrison.235500/