Earache Records: Vinyl reissues "simply come from the CD"

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Spirit Crusher, Jun 5, 2012.

  1. Spirit Crusher

    Spirit Crusher Well-Known Member

    Earache founder Digby Pearson answers questions:
    http://askearache.blogspot.com/2011/08/where-does-audio-for-earaches-vinyl-lp.html#links

    This next one makes so crazy I think I will have to commit myself:

     
  2. Synthfreek

    Synthfreek Forum Resident

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    Also known as "files"...that's awesomeness. With a band as important as Morbid Angel one would think they'd try a little harder. They are underestimating how anal metalheads can be.
     
  3. tkl7

    tkl7 Forum Resident

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    Note that he uses the term "vinyls."
     
  4. Spirit Crusher

    Spirit Crusher Well-Known Member

    Exactly - Digby doesn't have a clue. Sure, most buyers of this vinyl wouldn't even be able to play it, or play it on something like a Crosley, but there are many more who are discerning, and even if they don't have a turntable, I think would be rather disappointed to learn this! Oh boy, I'm spiralling, spiralling!

    But, really, though, how unusual is this mindset?

    Edit 2: I just bought straight from them Morbid Angel - Formulas 2011 vinyl, so apparently that will be utterly superfluous. @#$ you very much, Digby.
     
  5. MichaelSmith

    MichaelSmith Active Member

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    Atlanta, GA
    Why bother -- what a missed opportunity. Obviously this guy has no clue.

    Hope he is stuck with a warehouse of "vinyls" that go unsold....
     
  6. motorcitydave

    motorcitydave Enlightened Rogue

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    Sorry to hear this. Thanks for this bit of news nevertheless.
     
  7. Coldacre

    Coldacre Well-Known Member

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    every single vinyl listening metal-head I'm friends with prides themselves on having the 'original' vinyl pressing. that's just what we do :shrug:
     
  8. motorcitydave

    motorcitydave Enlightened Rogue

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    This is true...
     
  9. 5-String

    5-String Well-Known Member

    What an idiot! But at least he is honest....
     
  10. Spirit Crusher

    Spirit Crusher Well-Known Member

    Uff! So no wonder those things are hard to get at anywhere near affordable prices! Well, I appreciate Digby's honesty, now I know to avoid any Earache re-issues, except the "FDR" Full Dynamic Range Scum and FETO Napalm Death, which intrigues me.
     
  11. eyeCalypso

    eyeCalypso Well-Known Member

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    Yes, at least they're up front about it.
     
  12. dumangl

    dumangl Forum Resident

    I don't understand the complaints about Earaches "vinyls".

    With CDs you can get brickwalling and digital sterility. With "vinyls" you can get scratches, skips and inconvenience.

    But only with "vinyls" from CDs can you get all of these in one inconvenient package.
     
  13. I find it kind of ironic that they'd go back to the tapes for Scum - I mean, relative to Morbid Angel and the like, there's a lot less to get lost sonically from a sub-optimal treatment of that album.
     
  14. troyvod

    troyvod Active Member

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    newcastle
    glad i bought them back in the day....
     
  15. Sid Hartha

    Sid Hartha Drenched in reverb

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    Illinois, USA
    Appropriate name for the label, it seems.
     
  16. krlpuretone

    krlpuretone Well-Known Member

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    Well, in there is a relevant clue...I can't imagine that it's easy to find a place to cut a vinyl master from PCM betamax tapes. Not that it excuses how they did it...but I think it is an ongoing problem with groups that recorded from the mid 80s onward...

    I know the band I was in tracked to analog tape but mixed to digital which was on a standard VCR tape...
     
  17. kwadguy

    kwadguy Forum Resident

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  18. JustVinyl

    JustVinyl Well-Known Member

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    Useful info ... I was thinking of getting the Morbid Angel vinyl re-issues but not now ... I will just look out for some good original vinyl pressings.
     
  19. Spirit Crusher

    Spirit Crusher Well-Known Member

    In his post, Digby responded "they weren't advertised as being from original analog tapes or audiophile in any way" so therefore we should know better. Sigh.
     
  20. jon9091

    jon9091 Master Of Reality

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    Also note the name of the label is "Earache". I think that pretty much sums up the quality to be expected.
     
  21. Davidmk5

    Davidmk5 Well-Known Member

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    Marlboro , ma. usa
    That's just crazy thinking , if this is indeed the case there is ZERO reason to buy the vinyl , i can buy a crappy sounding cd for much les & get near the same sound .
    VERY surprising they would do this , what a bummer .....
     
  22. krlpuretone

    krlpuretone Well-Known Member

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    The funny thing is Digby (and Earache itself) started at the tail end of the vinyl era, so it should not be a complex issue...other than being lazy and saying "we don't want to track down the masters, have them flown to England and re-cut, etc. for an edition of 1000 LPs"
     
  23. Spirit Crusher

    Spirit Crusher Well-Known Member

    From what he's posted on that blog, it's an issue of dealing with the old tapes (he complained about how fussy they are, baking, etc); I imagine dealing with Betamax would be easier. Plus in Europe, he pointed out that GZ does most of the pressing there, and can they handle analogue tape, and actually do mastering in-house? So in fairness it could be cost/benefit, but they still charge a fair bit of money for the vinyl re-issues. If he is so afraid that a reissue would sound so different (he did say they tried that with Altars of Madness, but abandoned it), apparently he is unaware what experienced cutting/mastering engineers do. :rolleyes:
     

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