Elton John Vinyl Reissues

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Sunsales, Feb 15, 2017.

  1. Darrin Crawford

    Darrin Crawford Forum Resident

    Really?? i know of another copy at a local shop $41.99 ....you do the math. I am tempted but I just want a clean pressing with this Bob Ludwig remaster because honestly?? This is theee best I have ever heard it.
     
  2. richbdd01

    richbdd01 Forum Resident

    Location:
    London
    So are all these reports of noisy copies of Blue Moves one offs for GZ media? I still think they struggle to press a quiet record....you notice it on tracks like Tonight....hopeless!
     
  3. Lovealego

    Lovealego Forum Resident

    Location:
    Danville, CA
    My GZ Blue Moves was flawless. I critically listened to the whole album waiting for some nastiness. Dead quiet the whole time.
     
  4. JP Christian

    JP Christian Forum Resident

    Here we go again, what are you, the Daily Mail equivalent of fault reporting?

    250 plus GZ pressings here, no noise, no warps, none off-centre, not one.

    "ALL" these reports...? What, two? :doh:

    It's an age old ennui (to partly quote a Roxy Music lyric - they were also pressed on GZ) - that the folk with the faulty pressings will shout the loudest and in turn that supposedly means that they're all bad - not true.
     
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  5. richbdd01

    richbdd01 Forum Resident

    Location:
    London
    There's a massive thread on this forum about them and they are notorious for bad pressings, not just on this forum!

    It seems YOU are the one who is probably the CEO of GZ media as you are constantly leaping to their defence.... :shh:
     
  6. Darrin Crawford

    Darrin Crawford Forum Resident

    Three...hahahahhaahh :laughup:
     
  7. Darrin Crawford

    Darrin Crawford Forum Resident

    In all seriousness so I noticed that Americans don't get the download cards for these reissues but for some reason Canada and Europe do. So I assume I have a GZ pressing so where would the American pressings take place> Weird as it's the same barcode
     
  8. JamesRR

    JamesRR Well-Known Member

    Location:
    NYC
    I've wondered the same thing. Is it merely a packaging thing at the plant or is someone else pressing them.

    And I had two copies in a row that were noisy, so all this nonsense about defending the company is ludicrous. They should be able to press a quiet record. It's not as though pressing records is a new innovation that needs to work out some kinks.
     
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  9. Darrin Crawford

    Darrin Crawford Forum Resident

    Exactly, especially given that the rest of the reissues are flawless.
     
  10. richbdd01

    richbdd01 Forum Resident

    Location:
    London
    Oooh don't tell JP Christian!!!
     
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  11. e.s.

    e.s. Forum Resident

    Location:
    Pacific Northwest
    I haven't had any problems with these reissues. Everything so far has been clean, flat, and quiet.
     
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  12. JP Christian

    JP Christian Forum Resident

    Haha, yes of course I am the CEO of GZ :biglaugh:

    I 'leap to their defence' because they are constantly singled out on here as the worst pressing plant in the world and this is simply not true - all plants have dud pressings and yet I don't see anyone constantly slagging off Rainbo, United, MPO, Pallas and Optimal with the same enthusiasm, all of which I have had to return pressings for having non-fill, being noisy, being off centre or warped - the number of GZ pressings I've had to return is zero (and I am not joking when I say I have over 250).
     
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  13. Strat-Mangler

    Strat-Mangler Forum Resident

    Location:
    Toronto
    Just bought 3 EJ reissues in a batch from another forum member who certified them as being in NM condition, quiet, and centered. All for $45 shipped. Should be interesting. The titles are ;

    Tumbleweed Connection
    Don't Shoot Me
    Captain Fantastic

    I own a DJM 1st UK of Captain but don't own the other two and thought it'd be interesting to do a comparison anyway.
     
  14. soundQman

    soundQman Idealist of the Musical Apocalypse

    Location:
    Arlington, VA, USA
    So, what format are the downloads? Are they hi-res versions, by any chance?
     
  15. Classicrock

    Classicrock Forum Resident

    Location:
    South West, UK.
    GZ are no worse than any other plant in my experience as far as pressing faults are concerned. My Blue Moves has some surface noise on side 1 but it is not really intrusive on my equipment. Different deck and cartridge sensitive to surface noise and may be another matter. I've had to exchange more records from Optimal, MPO, Record Industry and even RTI than from GZ.
     
  16. richbdd01

    richbdd01 Forum Resident

    Location:
    London
    No a lot of them don't have major faults. However, GZ pressings have historically looked terrible with scuff marks etc and they, in my experience, have a higher noise floor than the likes of RTI, Optimal, MPO etc with constant crackle in a lot of cases. I think it depends on how much they also pay for the pressing.

    One thing I will say is that I don't get many warped records from GZ.

    How does the Blue Moves compare to original in terms of mastering?
     
  17. Greg Carrier

    Greg Carrier Forum Resident

    Location:
    Iowa City
    Got my copy of Madman Across The Water yesterday, and it's beautiful -- flat, centered, quiet, and sounds great. The gatefold with the glued-in booklet is flawless. This is how vinyl reissues should be done.
     
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  18. dharmabumstead

    dharmabumstead Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Snohomish, WA
    Two copies of Blue Moves from Amazon US and both are horribly noisy. Crackly hash on both discs - super aggravating during quiet bits like "Tonight" and the intro to "One Horse Town".

    Returning the second copy as well to Amazon US and just ordered another copy from Amazon UK. Crossing fingers and all that...
     
  19. Nobby

    Nobby Forum Resident

    Location:
    Birmingham, UK
    Don't want to worry you, but my Amazon UK copy of Blue Moves is going back.

    "Tonight" is so poor, the copy I bought back in 1976 has fewer crackles!

    I know some have been lucky, but I'm not paying £30 for anything less than 100% perfect.
     
  20. Classicrock

    Classicrock Forum Resident

    Location:
    South West, UK.
    No vinyl is 100% perfect! I think there is likely some noise on quiet parts of side 1 on all these and it is probably a plating issue. Depends partly on how your cartridge/arm and TT deal with it. My copy is quite acceptable on my gear but I wouldn't call it perfect. I can't generally find any relationship between price and pressing quality apart from MFSL and I have had to exchange a few of those even.
     
  21. Nobby

    Nobby Forum Resident

    Location:
    Birmingham, UK
    I do agree, I think I was overstating it a bit.

    It just irritates me that vinyl I bought 40 years ago is quieter than newly bought.

    It's still going back though! :)
     
  22. JamesRR

    JamesRR Well-Known Member

    Location:
    NYC
    I had two copies from Amazon US, and both were very noisy on Side 1 - beyond acceptable. Was going to try Amazon UK, but after hearing this, not even going to bother.

    Not sure if waiting a while until it's repressed will help. Such a shame - out of 14 reissues, it's the only one I've had trouble with.
     
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  23. JamesRR

    JamesRR Well-Known Member

    Location:
    NYC
    How long ago did you buy? I preordered and got it on release day and mine was very noisy. Returned immediately, 2nd copy was also noisy. Returned again.

    Noticed they didn't have it in stock for a day or so and it returned (this was about a week ago). Wondered if another batch had arrived.
     
  24. Mazzy

    Mazzy Forum Resident

    Maybe they are trying to tell you something :tiphat:
     
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  25. richbdd01

    richbdd01 Forum Resident

    Location:
    London
    Give it a rest for christ sake...:mad:
     
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