Essential Frank Zappa albums (from his dizzying discog)

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  1. Nightbreed

    Nightbreed We're only immortal for a limited time. Thread Starter

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    Riverside, CA
    I'm familiar with some of Zappa's '70s work, but not with much after that. My father, who passed away earlier this year, left me a bunch of CDs...among them about 80 Frank Zappa albums. I fully intend to keep all the CDs, but I've been in the process of ripping my CDs to FLAC for the past year or so (I was nearly done...until now).

    It looks like I have just about the whole collection here. I've noticed some overlap in song titles though, on what appears to be some compilations and live albums. I want to digitize the essential albums, can anyone help me narrow down the amount of CDs I need to rip? Thanks!
     
  2. O Don Piano

    O Don Piano Senior Member

    There are countless threads in this forum about this very same thing. Maybe someone can do a search and post a couple of those.
     
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  3. Opinions will vary, but I’d start with everything from Freak Out! through Zoot Allures. All of that is essential imho. For starters.
     
  4. StarThrower62

    StarThrower62 Forum Resident

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    Overlap of titles doesn't mean they're the same recordings. There's no way to learn this stuff overnight. As far as "essential" goes, it depends on your taste? If you're a rock fan, the albums recorded between 1973-1981 are the ones to listen to. The 1972 albums are closer to jazz/rock fusion. 1969's Hot Rats is another fusion classic. Before that it's more experimental.
     
  5. pantofis

    pantofis Senior Member

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    Berlin, Germany
    Freak Out!
    We're Only in it for the money
    Lumpy Gravy
    Overnight Sensation / Apostrophe
    One Size Fits All
    Sheik Yerbouti
    You Are What You Is
    Shut Up N Play Your Guitar
    Frank Zappa Meets The Mothers Of Prevention
    Civilization Phase III
     
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  6. Rob Hughes

    Rob Hughes Forum Resident

    One useful resource: google four terms together: Steve Hoffman Zappa poll.
    There are several polls that will give you a sense for how local denizens rate Zappa albums against each other.
     
  7. Opeth

    Opeth Forum Resident

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    I'm no zappaologist, but I'm getting there. I've been digging in more than I have since I first started dabbling over 25 years ago. I'm not a huge fan of post 81 besides the more guitar oriented stuff so far. However I can't honestly say I've critically listened to much after 81 besides "guitar". 66-81 is essential for me and all the project object releases have been great along with the live ones.
     
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  8. mark winstanley

    mark winstanley Certified dinosaur, who likes physical product

    you would need to figure out which Frank you like. Some like his instrumental stuff, some like his sarcastic stuff, some like his live stuff, some like all of it.
    But it is almost impossible to say (with someone like Zappa "these are the essential albums for you")
    Personal favourites for me that I think are essential are

    Absolutely free
    We're only in it for the money
    Hot rats
    Just another band from L.A
    Overnight Sensation
    Apostrophe
    Roxy and Elsewhere
    One Size Fits all
    Bongo Fury
    Sleep Dirt (original mix)
    Sheik Yerbouti
    Joes garage acts 1,2 and 3
    Ship arriving too late to save a drowning witch
    Them or Us

    It is also hard to go past several of the You Can't Do That On Stage Anymore series, Vol 2 Helsinki perhaps being the highlight

    But for every fan, there will probably be a significantly different list
     
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  9. mark winstanley

    mark winstanley Certified dinosaur, who likes physical product

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  10. StarThrower62

    StarThrower62 Forum Resident

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    I have. And I recommend the 2 CD live set, Make A Jazz Noise Here. Features a fantastic 12 piece ensemble and loads of great material. The studio album I suggest is 1984's Them Or Us. It's another double album on one CD that features all of the styles FZ is known for. If you like live music, the first two volumes of You Can't Do That On Stage Anymore are also highly recommended.

    If you like orchestral, London Symphony, and Yellow Shark are both great recordings.
     
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  11. libertycaps

    libertycaps Forum Resident

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    It's almost as daunting as the current Grateful Dead discography. Just start at the beginning (1966) and proceed until you lose interest is my advice.
     
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  12. SJR

    SJR Big Boss Man

    I'd start with;

    "Hot Rats"
    "Over-Nite Sensation"
    "Apostrophe"
    "One Size Fits All"
    "Sheik Yerbouti"

    And go from there.

    All of his stuff from "Freak Out!" to "Tinsel Town Rebellion" is essential imo.
     
  13. MikeManaic61

    MikeManaic61 Forum Resident

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  14. mmars982

    mmars982 Forum Resident

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    Pittsburgh, PA
    Sorry to hear about your father. But that's really something if he had all that Zappa in his collection that was passed on to you.

    Here would be what I would call essential:

    Freak Out
    We're Only in it for the Money
    Uncle Meat

    Hot Rats
    Grand Wazoo

    Apostrophe
    Overnight Sensation
    One Size Fits All

    Joe's Garage
    Sheik Yerbouti

    Läther

    Depending on what you like, you can figure out where to go from there.
     
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  15. Opeth

    Opeth Forum Resident

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    Not many mentions of Zoot Allures, One of his best "guitar" albums and hilarious subject matter.
     
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  16. Tristero

    Tristero In possession of the future tense

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    MI
    Here are some favorites off the top of my head, though I'm only scratching the surface here:

    Absolutely Free
    Uncle Meat/Meat Light
    Burnt Weeny Sandwich
    Hot Rats
    Apostrophe
    The Grand Wazoo
    Roxy & Elsewhere (plus additional archival configurations)
    One Size Fits All
    Lather

    I'm a big fan of Zappa's various and sundry live releases as well. . .
     
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  17. rednoise

    rednoise Senior Member

    Location:
    Boston
    I was a big Zappa listener up through the mid-to-late '70s, so I won't speak of later years. I choose what I think are the significant albums, skipping some of ones that I consider to be "stepping stones" between those more primary statements. My choices for that period would be:
    • Freak Out
    • We're Only In It for the Money
    • Uncle Meat
    • 200 Motels (or better yet the posthumous "200 Motels - The Suites", which is far better recorded)
    • Hot Rats
    • The Grand Wazoo
    • Overnite Sensation and/or Apostrophe
    • Roxy and Elsewhere
    At this point I lost interest in Zappa for quite a few years. I like some things and disliked others. To cover that period I nominate "Lather", which is full of great music.
     
  18. mmars982

    mmars982 Forum Resident

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    I had this on my list, but changed my mind and took it off. It's one of my favorites, but I thought it was stretching it to call it essential. But maybe I'm wrong.
     
  19. Opeth

    Opeth Forum Resident

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    I think it's great because most the people I play it around like it. Kind of like apostrophe it's sort of a ice breaker for Zappa but still an amazing album like (')
     
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  20. gkella

    gkella Glen Kellaway From The Basement

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    My list of essential FZ albums changes.
    Hot Rats is consistently number one on the list.
    For many years the others would have been
    Apostrophe
    Zoot Allures
    Freak Out
    Waka/Jawaka
    If you ask me today to name my top five essential FZ albums...
    Hot Rats
    Absolutely Free
    Bongo Fury
    Burnt Weenie Sandwich
    Freak Out
     
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  21. spacecoyote

    spacecoyote Astral Resident

    The only one missing from that list, in my opinion, is Waka/Jawaka. That would make it the perfect essentials collection.
     
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  22. Instant Dharma

    Instant Dharma Dude/man

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    CoCoCo, Ca
    Absolutely Free
    Uncle Meat
    Hot Rats
    Grand Wazoo
    One Size Fits All
    Roxy and Elsewhere
    Joes Garage
    Tinseltown Rebellion
    Broadway the Hard Way

    Helsinki
    Make A Jazz Noise
    Carnegie Hall
    Odeon
    Roxy Performances

    It’s a tad 80’s heavy but Stage 3 is excellent. Stage 1 and 5 are also very good.
     
  23. Buddybud

    Buddybud Paisley DayGlo Freak!

    If like ya like 50's doo wop, try Cruising with Ruben and the Jets. Alas, no commercial potential!
     
  24. jeddy

    jeddy Forum Resident

    nothing Frank did was superficial!
    It's all essential!
    It's all one big note!
    Just work your way through everything.
    If you're here inquiring, you will eventually …..
    Take some time with it

    It's a way of life.
     
  25. jwoverho

    jwoverho Licensed Drug Dealer

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    Mobile, AL USA
    HOT RATS
    GRAND WAZOO
    WAKA/JAWAKA
    ONE SIZE FITS ALL
    UNCLE MEAT

    I’m just not a fan of his scatalogical works. I know it’s satire and he had a real point, but it’s just not my cup of tea. To me it seemed below his talent.
     
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