Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by alphanguy, Jan 29, 2016.
If I Can Dream hit No. 12 in 1968, the year his comeback kicked off. Not a bad chart showing.
Nothing against The Beach Boys (my favorite group), I don't think they enjoyed the kind of chart success Elvis enjoyed 1962-63.
He was still charting big Top 10 hits.
The Ramsey Lewis Trio version was hit as well...my older sister had the 45 when we were kids. I still love it all these decades later.
That's great to hear. From what I've read on radio forums, radio programmers today pretty much don't care about listeners with gray hair.
Their target advertising audience is 18-50.
Anyone who is 50 today would have been 20 in 1986, and they only go-back 30 years in terms of songs.
The "classic hits" FM stations I heard on a recent drive through the Midwest all played 70s and 80s but were mostly late 70s through late 80s.
I heard very little early 70s.
Most the stations didn't play any song older than 1975.
I have been bemoaning the state of commercial "oldies" radio since 2000, when they dropped playing 50s and early 60s.
Even then, they would only play the most tired, overplayed songs from 1964-1974.
Today, they hardly play any 1970s, except for late 70s.
Odd, I graduated from high school in 1980, so you'd figure "my music" would be late 70s.
Far from it.
I prefer music from the 50s-70s with mostly 1959-66 with many 70s. I find the late 70s, overall, to be among the least interesting to me.
Ten years ago I used to listen to that station on the Internet! I discovered a few songs I'd never heard before through it, like Dusty by the Rag Dolls and (I'm pretty sure) All Strung Out by Nino Tempo and April Stevens. One night they had a doo-wop obscurities special and they played Maybe You'll Be There by Billy and the Essentials, which was also new to me.
I love this group! They had so many great songs, it's a shame none ever reached the top so we can properly pay tribute. Everyone is familiar with their superlative version of The In Crowd but this is also one of my all time favorites - enjoy!
Continuing my walk through the thread, I next reach... House of the Rising Sun by the Animals.
I've already talked a little about how this song seems to me a precursor of folk rock. But it also has, I think, an intensity to it quite unlike most of the other songs on the charts in those days. As others have mentioned, it seems like one of the first songs to really presage the way rock would sound in a few years. I would put the Kinks' You Really Got Me in that same category as well (it's from around the same time), but that song is not nearly as guttural as this one.
The main source of the power of House is Eric Burdon, who has one of the most incredible voices of the British Invasion. But credit is also due to Alan Price, who plays one of my all time favorite keyboard parts here. His solo is so hot that he probably needed to hose himself off afterwards.
The Animals continued in the blues-rock vein for a couple more years with (mostly) the same lineup. They produced several more winners, including iconic numbers like We Gotta Get Out of This Place, It's My Life, Don't Bring Me Down, and my personal favorite, Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood.
Eric re-emerged with a kinder, gentler Animals lineup after this. His forays into psychedlia occasionally sound dated today (example: Winds of Change), but I still flat out love 'San Franciscan Nights', dicey lyrics and all. It's such a beautiful song, I would gladly fly TransLove Airways to hear it.
I also really like Monterrey ('The Byrds... and the Airplane... did fly!'), and the touching 'Anything'.
Somebody should start Translove Airways - hot stewardesses in Barbarella-inspired getups. I'd pay extra to fly it!
I just checked my DB, and found that my two copies — one on a Time-Life compilation, the other on a Legacy Dion collection — are both <<STEREO>>. I don't remember what it sounded like in Mono.
I thought this thread was to discuss the Number One songs from Billboard, but lately it's devolved into a posting of charts from various weeks. I'm OK with either of those discussions, perhaps as separate threads, but I'd prefer a return to the discipline that this thread started with.
Crack that whip!
I hope everyone took a moment to remember Chuck Berry who passed away yesterday. I remember my cousin, Phil, playing one of his records for me around Christmas, 1955.
Earl Young and Red Holt harbored very bitter feelings after Ramsey Lewis decided to dissolve the trio and work with other musicians. They had a bit of revenge when they went to Brunswick Records and formed the house band and scored a hit album and single "Soulful Strut", and Lewis released a series of awful albums until his contract ran out with Chess Records. But, now we are jumping ahead in addition to posting charts and non-#1 songs.
What's this thread about, anyway?
I'd prefer that too. It is interesting to see what other songs were charting at the time a particular song hit number one, but that can be done by citing a few songs in your text or giving some statements about what was going on - it doesn't require a long pasted list of the entire chart.
Sorry, could not resist.
I posted the charts to show you the quality of the other non-No. 1 songs (of which there were many more) that populated the charts of a particular week.
While No. 1s are great, a song at No. 1 doesn't really tell you anything, until you hear that LOUIE LOUIE, which only got to No. 2, was also on the chart.
Additionally, many No. 1s (like Honey, Physical, Venus, etc.) tend to hog the top spot, clogging it & preventing other No. 1-like songs ( i.e. Creedance Clearwater Revival, Chicago) from going higher.
California Girls, for example, was as good as I Got You Babe, but you wouldn't know about the song in this thread otherwise. It "only" hit No. 3
I will, however, limit the posting to the Top 10 or so, as the whole chart can get quite long.
That doesn't mean the "British Invasion" was perfect or always right or better in any way...
After all, there are many throw-away songs from the UK during that time period (Freddy & The Dreamers, The Hippy Hippy Shake, etc.).
Music tastes change.
Note how the so-called "British Invasion" didn't stop songs like HONEY from dominating the No. 1 spot in 1968 FOR A MONTH !!!
The older listeners are as important as the fickle teen fan-base.
The teen buyers change tastes rather quickly.
Adults tend to be steadier in purchasing, and not so wishy-washy.
The great Bobby Darin appealed to both and eventually recorded to the older record buyers, which remained an important buying segment throughout the 60s.
Note the importance of adult record buyers since the 1990s. Classic rock wouldn't exist without that buying demographic.
Another Gem from 1961/62.
A very distinctive song.
Remarkable like The Duke of Earl, The Doo Run Run (can we say CLAP FOR THE WOLFMAN? ) for its unique sound.
You hear this song and you immediately think of the early 60s.
I seriously doubt The Who (or any other 1960s acts) are major influences on today's young bands.
Nothing wrong with Bobby Vinton.
He wasn't a rock & roller, but he never claimed to be.
Nor did Connie Francis, Brenda Lee, John Denver, The Carpenters, Barry Manilow & many others who many enjoyed.
Not ALL music has to be rock & roll.
So did The Herman's Hermits, The Animals, Dave Clark Five, Creedance Clearwater Revival, The Searchers, etc.
Dougd, please take this in the spirit in which I'm giving it. Seven posts in a row? Really? I understand the need to quote, but there is a multi-quote function here. Just press the "+ Quote" link in the lower right of all posts the you want to quote, then put them in your reply and answer each one in turn within just one post. It's easier to read that way.
Also, I didn't mean that your "songs beneath number ones" posts were useless, just that they were dominating the past few pages when the thrust of this thread is the very special cases of number on songs. It's an exclusive club that is both rewarding and maddening at the same time. It's been about three pages now of largely posts about non-number ones since our thread starter has posted the next record.
I sheepishly admit to going off topic during the discussion but talking about one song often leads to another. I actually appreciate being made aware of songs I'm not familiar with so as long as we don't get too side-tracked this doesn't bother me. Of course, some songs garner very little discussion or seem to be unfamiliar to a lot of posters. Where are the oldies out there who remember and cherish this stuff? I would have thought participation would have gone up once the Beatles came into the picture. On the other hand, I get that some want to move the thread along as we've only gone through 7 years in 132 pages!
No problem. No hurt feelings.
I sometimes go overboard in my posts. Thanks for the feedback !!
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