EVERY Billboard #1 hit discussion thread 1958-Present

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by alphanguy, Jan 29, 2016.

  1. tmoore

    tmoore Forum Resident

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    In the early '80s, I found a old cassette tape which belonged to my sister. At some point in the late '70s, she had recorded certain songs from the radio.

    On the place where you list songs, I could see she had recorded "I Can Help" off the radio at some point, but had written it down as I Can Help -- Ringo Starr. I knew the correct answer was Billy Swan by this time but I can also see why she may have thought it was Starr.
     
  2. Grant

    Grant Life is a rock, but the radio rolled me!

    I just realized that I once owned a 45 on the green/light blue Monument label . I sure wish I could remember what it was.
     
  3. Black Thumb

    Black Thumb Yah Mo B There

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    Reno, NV
    I've encountered that a few times myself, people thinking it's Ringo.

    I just searched YouTube and sure enough there's one on there credited to Mr. Starr, with 6000+ views.
     
  4. alphanguy

    alphanguy Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    I don't know.... I think this had a similar vibe. Less rockabilly edged, however, but very 50's in structure.
     
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  5. Manapua

    Manapua Forum Resident

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    '74 was probably the peak year for all the retro stuff we were hearing. There'd still be some of that in the next year but the growing disco juggernaut will soon wipe all of that from the map.
    Maria Muldaur is a case in point. She followed up her breakout LP Long Hard Climb with an even better one - Waitress In A Donut Shop - that also produced her last Top 20 hit I'm A Woman, itself a remake of a Peggy Lee early 60s tune. The album was another mix of old-timey sounds alongside newer material similar to what the Pointer Sisters were up to at the same time. I won't post the single since it peaked on the charts in early'75 and the cops are watching but here's an example of a retro tune with the added bonus of "naughty" lyrics to spice things up.

     
  6. Dougd

    Dougd Forum Resident

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    Fla.
    I've always felt that song had a 50s-early 60s vibe, almost like a Connie Francis song.
     
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  7. John22

    John22 Forum Resident

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  8. Hey Vinyl Man

    Hey Vinyl Man Another bloody Yank down under...

    Swan was also among the numerous folks who were namechecked in the spoken intro to Kristofferson's "The Pilgrim, Chapter 33":


    The others included Jerry Jeff Walker, who later repaid the favor.


    I agree, but that song didn't get to #1.
     
  9. Tim S

    Tim S Senior Member

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    East Tennessee
    Never thought about it, but I can definitely hear this. "I can help" is a pretty decent song - surprised it went to #1, and that it did so on both charts. I give it extra credit for originality - it doesn't sound a bit like any other #1 so far this year.
     
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  10. AppleBonker

    AppleBonker Forum Resident

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    Then Came You

    So I really like the Spinners, they are awesome, and this is to me more a Spinners song than a Dionne one... but I can't let this opportunity go by without talking about my favorite Psychic Friend, Ms. Warwick, one of my all time favorite vocalists.

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    The song in question is fine and I quite like it, but I have a major love affair with the Warwick/Bacharach combination from the sixties, and we've barely discussed that stuff at all. It's incredible to me that all those great songs were released, and not a single one managed to get to #1. Among my faves are the three I always conflate together: San Jose, I'll Never Fall in Love Again, and I Say a Little Prayer. Somewhat like another singer I love, Roberta Flack, Warwick has a cool elegance that just works with Bacharach and David songs, and those three in particular.

    But there were so many more. We haven't even mentioned Alfie yet! And the theme from the Valley of the Dolls is also a winner, and count me among the big fans of that cinematic catastrophe.

    Sparkle, Neely, Sparkle!

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    Then there's my favorite song of hers. It was also the first hit she had with Burt n' Hal, in fact her first single, period, but weirdly it was not played so often on oldies radio. In fact, I never heard it until I was a couple of years out of college. But I think it's gorgeous, and her singing was never more passionate, raw and YOUNG. The song is 'Don't Make Me Over', and it was released in 1962.

    The part that kills me is the 'Accept me for what I am!' part. Man oh man, that's gorgeous. And the way the song builds to it is epic.



    Legend has it that the song came about as follows. Bacharach became aware of Dionne when she worked as a vocalist on demos for the writers. She was going to record 'Make It Easy On Yourself' as her debut, but the label decided she wasn't right for it. Warwick was furious, and yelled at the duo, 'Don't make me over, man! You have to accept me for what I am!' Light bulbs went off, they wrote a song for her using those words, and her career was born.

    PS according to Wikipedia, her birth name was Warrick, but a misspelling resulted in Warwick, and she went with that ever since. I never heard that before; is it true?
     
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  11. Manapua

    Manapua Forum Resident

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    Not sure about why the name change but she was indeed born Marie Dionne Warrick although I'm willing to bet it wasn't because a psychic told her so....yet.
     
  12. W.B.

    W.B. The Collector's Collector

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    Didn't really hear Mr. Starr in Mr. Swan's vocals. Sounded to me a bit more like Sonny James.
     
  13. czeskleba

    czeskleba Senior Member

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    I've seen several people on this forum say they think it sounds like Ringo, but I've never understood why. I don't hear much of any similarity at all. The song is simple and doesn't require much vocal range so it's suited to Ringo's voice, but I sure don't think Swan sounds like him. I hear more Jerry Lee Lewis (or his cousin Mickey Gilley) in Swan's vocal.

    Interestingly, Ringo did cover the song in 1987 (as part of an album recorded with country producer Chips Moman) but he then got sober and sued Moman to prevent the album's release, alleging it was recorded when he was drunk and would reflect poorly on his reputation. Ringo prevailed and the recordings have never been officially released, though some tracks have slipped out on bootleg, including the "I Can Help" cover. I think Ringo was wise to want to suppress this:
     
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  14. W.B.

    W.B. The Collector's Collector

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    There were a few with that design that are memorable today:
    - "It's Over" and "Oh Pretty Woman" by Roy Orbison
    - "Unwind," "Mr. Businessman" and "Gitarzan" by Ray Stevens
    - "Polk Salad Annie" by Tony Joe White
     
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  15. HGN2001

    HGN2001 Mystery picture member

    Benny and Bjorn said that "I Do, I Do, I Do, I Do, I Do" was done in the style of Billy Vaughn.
     
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  16. Black Thumb

    Black Thumb Yah Mo B There

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    This song in particular, I'm guessing:

     
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  17. Grant

    Grant Life is a rock, but the radio rolled me!

    It was none of those. I'd remember it!
     
  18. Grant

    Grant Life is a rock, but the radio rolled me!

    I compare Billy Swan's vocal on this song to a Ringo Starr who could sing. :)
     
  19. Manapua

    Manapua Forum Resident

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    Well, I'm sure Ringo cried all the way to the bank.
     
  20. Mylene

    Mylene Senior Member

    When it came out in Australia the reviewer said Billy sounded like a cross between Elvis and Ringo.

    The long version of I Can Help is on the legendary Guilty Pleasures compilation.
     
  21. sunspot42

    sunspot42 Forum Resident

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    He should have kept producing. "Polk Salad Annie" would beat the crap out of "I Can Help", steal its lunch money and leave it upside down in a trashcan.
     
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  22. sunspot42

    sunspot42 Forum Resident

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    I was gonna mention the other day that he sounds a lot like Ringo on "I Can Help".
     
  23. sunspot42

    sunspot42 Forum Resident

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    Yeah, not sure what people are talking about. This period of the '70s was loaded with all kinds of retro stuff. American Graffiti prompted a lot of rock revivalist stuff, and you'd get remakes of '50s and early '60s songs (The Carpenters had a big hit the next year with one, so did Linda Ronstadt) and retro-inspired original hits clear into the mid-'80s.

    About the only thing that died out around this period were the Tin Pan Alley / vaudeville-tinged cuts from the likes of Tony Orlando, although even then not completely (we may mention a huge remake of a Depression-era hit in about a decade in this thread).
     
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  24. pablo fanques

    pablo fanques Somebody's Bad Handwroter In Memoriam

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    My brother and I have been DeeJays our entire adult lives (I started at 16) but I was 5 in '74 and Grandma held that unofficial honor. I can still see her changing the 45's one at a time at family parties: "I Can Help", "Wasted Days & Wasted Nights", "Melody of Love", "Crocodile Rock", "Bad, Bad Leroy Brown", the reissue of "Monster Mash" and even "Shaving Cream"! All these years later I still play these tracks at family get togethers and it always takes me back to that glorious period. Gram was right there when disco kicked in and was a huge Brian Setzer fan when he came into prominence. I had the pleasure of telling him so at a Supper Club gig after she passed and he raised a toast to her. It's all about the memories folks. That's why we're here
     
  25. Jrr

    Jrr Forum Resident

    Oh my! That’s like that horrible spell check we’ve seen the nano second after we pressed the send button. That post is full of ‘em...hysterical as I’m sure it was only a train wreck and not intentional.
     
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