Favorite "Dark Star"?

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Jerry, Nov 22, 2007.

  1. Chris Schoen

    Chris Schoen Rock 'n Roll !!!

    Location:
    Maryland, U.S.A.
    They were tired of playing it? :sigh::shh:
     
  2. Chris Schoen

    Chris Schoen Rock 'n Roll !!!

    Location:
    Maryland, U.S.A.
    This is my "go to" Dark Star also. :righton:
     
  3. Scope J

    Scope J Senior Member

    Location:
    Michigan
    234 show(s) found
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    8/21/68 Fillmore West San Francisco CA
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    8/23/68 Shrine Exhibition Hall Los Angeles CA
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    11/1/68 Silver Dollar Fair Chico CA
    11/22/68 Veterans Memorial Auditorium Columbus OH
    12/7/68 Bellarmine College Louisville KY
    12/29/68 Gulfstream Park Race Track Hallandale FL
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    2/5/69 Soldier's And Sailors Memorial Hall Kansas City KS
    2/6/69 Kiel Auditorium St. Louis MO
    2/7/69a Stanley Theatre Pittsburg PA
    2/11/69b Fillmore East New York NY
    2/12/69 Fillmore East New York NY
    2/14/69 Electric Factory Philadelphia PA
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    2/21/69 Dream Bowl Vallejo CA
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    2/27/69 Fillmore West San Francisco CA
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    3/15/69 Hilton Hotel San Francisco CA
    3/22/69 Rose Palace Pasadena CA
    3/28/69 Student Center, Modesto Jr. College Modesto CA
    3/29/69 Ice Palace Las Vegas NV
    4/4/69 Avalon Ballroom San Francisco CA
    4/5/69 Avalon Ballroom San Francisco CA
    4/11/69 University Auditorium, University of Arizona Tucson AZ
    4/12/69 Student Union Ballroom, University Of Utah Salt Lake City UT
    4/13/69 Ballroom - University of Colorado Boulder CO
    4/15/69 The Music Box Omaha NB
    4/17/69 Washington University St. Louis MO
    4/20/69 Clark University Worcester MA
    4/21/69 The Ark Boston MA
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    4/26/69 Kinetic Playground Chicago IL
    4/27/69 Labor Temple Minneapolis MN
    5/7/69 Polo Field - Golden Gate Park San Francisco CA
    5/10/69 Rose Palace Pasadena CA
    5/23/69 Seminole Indian Village West Hollywood FL
    5/30/69 Springer's Inn Portland OR
    5/31/69 MacArthur Court - University of Oregon Eugene OR
    6/5/69 Fillmore West San Francisco CA
    6/7/69 Fillmore West San Francisco CA
    6/14/69 Monterey Peninsula College Monterey CA
    6/21/69b Fillmore East New York NY
    6/22/69 Central Park New York NY
    6/27/69 Veterans Auditorium Santa Rosa CA
    7/5/69 Kinetic Playground Chicago IL
    7/7/69 Piedmont Park Atlanta GA
    7/12/69 NY State Pavilion, Flushing Meadow Park, Queens New York NY
    8/3/69 Family Dog at the Great Highway San Francisco CA
    8/16/69 Woodstock Music & Arts Fair - Max Yasgur's Farm Bethel NY
    8/20/69 Aqua Theater Seattle WA
    8/23/69 Pelletier Farm St. Helens OR
    8/28/69 Family Dog at the Great Highway San Francisco CA
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    9/1/69 Baton Rouge International Speedway Baton Rouge LA
    9/26/69 Fillmore East New York NY
    10/25/69 Winterland Arena San Francisco CA
    11/2/69 Family Dog at the Great Highway San Francisco CA
    11/7/69 Fillmore Auditorium San Francisco CA
    11/8/69 Fillmore Auditorium San Francisco CA
    11/21/69 Building A, Cal Expo Sacramento CA
    12/4/69 Fillmore West San Francisco CA
    12/11/69 Thelma Theater Los Angeles CA
    12/26/69 McFarlin Auditorium, SMU Dallas TX
    12/30/69 Boston Tea Party Boston MA
    1/2/70b Fillmore East New York NY
    1/17/70 Oregon State University Corvalis OR
    1/23/70 Honolulu Civic Auditorium Honolulu HI
    2/2/70 Fox Theatre St. Louis MO
    2/8/70 Fillmore West San Francisco CA
    2/11/70b Fillmore East New York NY
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    3/17/70 Kleinhans Music Hall Buffalo NY
    3/24/70 Pirate's World Dania FL
    4/24/70 Mammoth Gardens Denver CO
    4/26/70 York Farm Poynette WI
    5/15/70b Fillmore East New York NY
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    6/24/70b Capitol Theater Port Chester NY
    9/17/70 Fillmore East New York NY
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    10/11/70 Marion Shea Auditorium - Paterson State College Wayne NJ
    11/5/70 Capitol Theater Port Chester NY
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    11/13/70 46th Street Rock Palace Brooklyn NY
    2/18/71 Capitol Theater Port Chester NY
    4/8/71 Boston Music Hall Boston MA
    4/26/71 Fillmore East New York NY
    4/28/71 Fillmore East New York NY
    7/31/71 Yale Bowl - Yale University New Haven CT
    10/21/71 Auditorium Theatre Chicago IL
    10/24/71 Easttown Theatre Detroit MI
    10/31/71 Ohio Theatre Columbus OH
    11/7/71 Harding Theatre San Francisco CA
    11/15/71 Austin Municipal Auditorium Austin TX
    12/5/71 Felt Forum - Madison Square Garden New York NY
    12/15/71 Hill Auditorium Ann Arbor MI
    3/23/72 Academy of Music New York NY
    4/8/72 Wembley Empire Pool London England
    4/14/72 Tivolis Koncertsal København (Copenhagen) Dänemark (Denmark)
    4/17/72 Tivolis Koncertsal København (Copenhagen) Dänemark (Denmark)
    4/24/72 Rheinhalle Dusseldorf West Germany
    4/29/72 Musikhalle Hamburg West Germany
    5/4/72 L'Olympia Paris France
    5/7/72 Bickershaw Festival Wigan England
    5/11/72 Rotterdam Civic Hall Rotterdam Netherlands
    5/18/72 Kongressaal - Deutsches Museum Munich West Germany
    5/23/72 Strand Lyceum London England
    5/25/72 Strand Lyceum London England
    7/18/72 Roosevelt Stadium Jersey City NJ
    7/26/72 Paramount Theatre Portland OR
    8/21/72 Berkeley Community Theatre Berkeley CA
    8/24/72 Berkeley Community Theatre Berkeley CA
    8/27/72 Old Renaissance Faire Grounds Veneta OR
    9/10/72 Hollywood Palladium Hollywood CA
    9/16/72 Boston Music Hall Boston MA
    9/21/72 The Spectrum Philadelphia PA
    9/24/72 Palace Theatre Waterbury CT
    9/27/72 Stanley Theatre Jersey City NJ
    10/18/72 Fox Theatre St. Louis MO
    10/23/72 Performing Arts Center Milwaukee WI
    10/26/72 Music Hall Cincinnati OH
    10/28/72 Cleveland Public Hall Cleveland OH
    11/13/72 Soldier's And Sailors Memorial Hall Kansas City KS
    11/19/72 Hofheinz Pavilion - University of Houston Houston TX
    11/26/72 San Antonio Civic Auditorium San Antonio TX
    12/11/72 Winterland Arena San Francisco CA
    12/15/72 Long Beach Arena Long Beach CA
    2/15/73 Dane County Coliseum Madison WI
    2/22/73 Assembly Hall - University Of Illinois Champaign-Urbana IL
    2/26/73 Pershing Municipal Auditorium Lincoln NE
    3/16/73 Nassau Veterans Memorial Coliseum Uniondale NY
    3/21/73 Utica Memorial Auditorium Utica NY
    3/24/73 The Spectrum Philadelphia PA
    3/28/73 Springfield Civic Center Arena Springfield MA
    6/10/73 RFK Stadium Washington DC
    6/24/73 Memorial Coliseum Portland OR
    6/30/73 Universal Amphitheatre Universal City CA
    8/1/73 Roosevelt Stadium Jersey City NJ
    9/11/73 William And Mary Hall - College Of William And Mary Williamsburg VA
    10/19/73 Oklahoma City Fairgrounds Arena Oklahoma City OK
    10/25/73 Dane County Coliseum Madison WI
    10/30/73 Kiel Auditorium St. Louis MO
    11/11/73 Winterland Arena San Francisco CA
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    11/30/73 Boston Music Hall Boston MA
    12/6/73 Cleveland Public Hall Cleveland OH
    12/18/73 Curtis Hixon Convention Hall Tampa FL
    2/24/74 Winterland Arena San Francisco CA
    5/14/74 Adams Field House - University of Montana Missoula MT
    6/23/74 Jai-Alai Fronton Miami FL
    7/25/74 International Amphitheatre Chicago IL
    9/10/74 Alexandra Palace London England
    10/18/74 Winterland Arena San Francisco CA
    12/31/78 Winterland Arena San Francisco CA
    1/10/79 Nassau Veterans Memorial Coliseum Uniondale NY
    1/20/79 Shea's Theatre Buffalo NY
    12/31/81 Oakland Auditorium Oakland CA
    7/13/84 Greek Theatre - University of California Berkeley CA
    10/9/89 Hampton Coliseum Hampton VA
    10/16/89 Brendan Byrne Arena East Rutherford NJ
    10/26/89 Miami Arena Miami FL
    12/31/89 Oakland-Alameda County Coliseum Arena Oakland CA
    3/29/90 Nassau Veterans Memorial Coliseum Uniondale NY
    7/12/90 Robert F. Kennedy Stadium Washington DC
    9/20/90 Madison Square Garden New York NY
    10/20/90 Internationales Congress Centrum Berlin Germany
    11/1/90 Wembley Arena London England
    12/12/90 McNichols Arena Denver CO
    12/14/90 McNichols Arena Denver CO
    12/31/90 Coliseum Arena Oakland CA
    4/1/91 Greensboro Coliseum Greensboro NC
    6/14/91 RFK Stadium Washington DC
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    6/22/91 Soldier Field Chicago IL
    6/28/91 Mile High Stadium Denver CO
    8/16/91 Shoreline Amphitheatre Mountain View CA
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    9/10/91 Madison Square Garden New York NY
    9/24/91 Boston Garden Boston MA
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    10/31/91 Oakland-Alameda County Coliseum Stadium Oakland CA
    3/9/92 Capital Centre Landover MD
    3/20/92 Copps Coliseum Hamilton, Ontario Canada
    6/8/92 Richfield Coliseum Richfield OH
    6/22/92 Star Lake Amphitheater Burgettstown PA
    12/12/92 Oakland Coliseum Arena Oakland CA
    12/16/92 Oakland Coliseum Arena Oakland CA
    3/17/93 Capital Centre Landover MD
    6/23/93 Deer Creek Music Center Noblesville IN
    9/13/93 The Spectrum Philadelphia PA
    9/22/93 Madison Square Garden New York NY
    3/16/94 Rosemont Horizon Arena Rosemont IL
    3/30/94 The Omni Atlanta GA
     
  4. reeler

    reeler Forum Resident

    2/13/70, Late 1971 and Europe 1972 are some of my favorites.
     
  5. Evan L

    Evan L Beatologist

    Location:
    Vermont
    Original 2:45 WB 45 single version?

    Evan
     
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  6. Jerry

    Jerry Grateful Gort Staff Thread Starter

    Location:
    New England
    Besides "Half Stars", with just one verse performed, there were also many "Dark Star" jams, that had no verses sung. The one I saw at Boston Garden 6/28/74 out of "Mind Left Body" was brief, but there nonetheless. What's worse than a "Dark Star" tease? Not much!
     
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  7. Scope J

    Scope J Senior Member

    Location:
    Michigan
    Did you do segue's or fades ?
     
  8. davmar77

    davmar77 I'd rather be drummin'...

    Location:
    clifton park,ny
    i attended these. hard to say which was my favorite. they all had something to offer although i think the 72-73 versions would be right up there.

    12/5/71 Felt Forum - Madison Square Garden New York NY
    3/23/72 Academy of Music New York NY
    9/27/72 Stanley Theatre Jersey City NJ
    3/16/73 Nassau Veterans Memorial Coliseum Uniondale NY
    6/10/73 RFK Stadium Washington DC
    8/1/73 Roosevelt Stadium Jersey City NJ
    1/10/79 Nassau Veterans Memorial Coliseum Uniondale NY
    9/20/90 Madison Square Garden New York NY
     
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  9. David Powell

    David Powell Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Atlanta, Ga.
    I don't know if it was recorded, but my favorite version of "Dark Star" was one I saw the Dead perform live in Atlanta on Sunday, May 10, 1970 at the small Sports Arena. It was memorable because Duane Allman sat in & played second lead with Jerry. The Allman Brothers had driven up from Macon to lend the Dead some equipment that day and later sat in to play an encore set with the Dead. The opening act was Atlanta's Hampton Grease Band.
     
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  10. davmar77

    davmar77 I'd rather be drummin'...

    Location:
    clifton park,ny
    i saw the hampton grease band open for the mothers at the fillmore east in 71. great set and 3 encores. quite a feat in front of a zappa crowd although fillmore audiences would give everyone a chance and not just blow them off.

    from dead lists.

    Band Grateful Dead
    Venue Atlanta Sports Arena
    Location Atlanta, GA
    Date 5/10/70 - Sunday posters tickets, passes & laminates
    One Hard To Handle % The Other One
    Comments According to Barry Welch, who attended the concert, it was announced before the show that TWA had failed to deliver the band's equipment and they were going to borrow the Allman Bros' gear, and first the Allmans would play a set, and then the Dead would play a set, and then they'd Jam together. According to Chris Cole who attended this show it was an afternoon show and among the tunes played were Hard To Handle and The Other One. The Dead Jammed with the Allmans during the Allmans' set as well. DeadBase IX lists a Mama Tried and a Will The Circle Be Unbroken, the latter with the Allman Bros.
    Recordings none in circulation 10/00
     

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  11. David Powell

    David Powell Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Atlanta, Ga.
    As I recall, the Allman Brothers did not play a set by themselves, but sat in & played with the Dead as an encore set. That $3.00 ticket price was one of the best concert bargains I've ever enjoyed!
     
  12. MikeP5877

    MikeP5877 Senior Member

    Location:
    Northeast OH
  13. Jerry

    Jerry Grateful Gort Staff Thread Starter

    Location:
    New England
    You like that better than the Dicks Picks soundboard version? I might have to try that sometime, as I still remember after, ahem, 36 years, how it sounded from just above floor level stage right, about 1/3 way back from the stage. Lagin drilling holes in my brain, and bass notes bouncing around the hockey rink where I saw the Esposito brothers battle each other just a few months earlier. I believe Garcia was called for icing during "Loose Lucy". And Lesh called for "Ship of Fools" as an encore to "honor" the cherrybomb tossers in the crowd who should have been sent to the penalty box.
     
  14. aoxomoxoa

    aoxomoxoa I'm an ear sitting in the sky

    Location:
    USA
    I still like the original Live/Dead album version best.
     
  15. David Powell

    David Powell Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Atlanta, Ga.
    I forgot to mention another connection -- Glenn Phillips, one of the guitarists in the Hampton Grease Band, the opening act for that memorable Dead concert, later recorded a version of "Dark Star" with Henry Kaiser.
     
  16. MikeP5877

    MikeP5877 Senior Member

    Location:
    Northeast OH
    I like both. I've been on an AUD kick lately and I was just playing this AUD for the first time and was really knocked out by it. You could hear a pin drop as the MLB jam unfolds.

    The good AUD's from the Wall of Sound period (such as 6/23, 6/26, 6/28, 8/6) have a real nice shimmering, spacious sound that's sometimes lacking from the SBDs.
     
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  17. ARK

    ARK Forum Miscreant

    Location:
    Charlton, MA, USA
    Nothing beats the studio track.

    *kidding*
     
  18. nsmith1002

    nsmith1002 Forum Resident

    Location:
    Monticello, IN USA
    Well, believe it or not, that's the first version of Dark Star I ever heard (on the Long Strange Trip comp.). I had read about Dark Star's iconic status, but when I heard it I thought "Why does this get so much praise?". A few weeks later I bought Live/Dead and then I knew exactly what all the fuss was about!
    I have a few other Dark Stars on some of the Dick's Picks sets but my favorite remains the one on Live/Dead. I also have the Greyfolded 2 disc set and like that quite a bit. I only saw the Dead twice (Deer Creek 07/15/89 and 07/18/90) and no Dark Stars :cry:. Although 07/15/89 did have a pretty good Space with Jerry playing the 5 note "Close Encounters of the Third Kind" theme on his MIDI rig. I've often wondered if it was the closeness of Noblesville to Muncie where the beginning of the film was set (but not actually filmed there). IIRC, it did get a reaction from the crowd?
     
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  19. rcdupre

    rcdupre Flying is Trying is Dying

    there's also the 7-7-69 one from Piedmont Park, Atlanta, a free show where the Allmans opened...Duanne and Greg jam with them, but not on the Dark Star afaik, a sweet show! ....I saw Henry Kaiser do Dark Star in SF in about 1989, I didn't know Glenn Phillips played on the Those Who Don't Know History... CD (???) I LOVE the Hampton Grease Band !!!!! I also have a Henry Kaiser 3 inch CD where he does my other fave Dead song, Mason's Children...:thumbsup:
     
  20. vanhooserd

    vanhooserd Senior Member

    Location:
    Nashville,TN
    i'm full of envy.in 75-76 i lived in Atlanta & went to the Bistro a number
    of times to see Bruce Hampton -great,amazing shows.i was a big Glenn
    Phillips fan & bought a copy of his 1st album direcly from him-i just showed
    up at his house ! also saw Harold Kelling several times playing at a bar in
    Emory Village. only saw the Dead once:Vanderbilt University,Nashville,10/21/72.unfortunately, no Dark Star, but they did play a fine The Other One.
     
  21. David Powell

    David Powell Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Atlanta, Ga.
    That free Piedmont Park concert took place after the first Atlanta Pop Festival at Hampton Raceway on July 4th weekend. Amazingly, the Allman Brothers and the Dead were not booked for the festival. The Piedmont Park concert started in the afternoon and went on into the night, with a thunderstorm/power outage delay. Local bands Radar and the Hampton Grease Band opened. In addition to the ABB & the Dead, acts that had played at the festival -- Spirit, Chicago Transit Authority and Delaney & Bonnie & Friends also played. My memory is hazy, but the Dead closed the show and at various times were joined by Duane & Dickie, Glenn & Harold, Delaney, Randy California and Terry Kath.
     
  22. davmar77

    davmar77 I'd rather be drummin'...

    Location:
    clifton park,ny
    i attended that one too. i recall getting up there and scalping a ticket. i thought the first set was very disjointed and was thinking to myself, 'i came all the way up here for this?' but the second set was amazing. like a different show altogether, at least to me. i remember phil dedicating the ship of fools encore to the idiots inside the boston garden lighting off fireworks.
     
  23. David Powell

    David Powell Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Atlanta, Ga.
    I started hanging out at the Bistro in the late '60s when I was in high school. Since I was underage, they would stamp "no beer" on my hand. In 1970, when I was old enough to drink, I saw Mike Nesmith play solo there. Between sets he joined my friend & I at our table and shared a pitcher of beer with us as he told some stories about his Monkee days. But I digress...
     
  24. bodine

    bodine Senior Member

    Location:
    Washington DC
    I go short and long...

    The original studio version and the massive near-50 minute mamma-jamma from Rotterdam in 1972
     
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  25. bodine

    bodine Senior Member

    Location:
    Washington DC


    Damn, was AT Gulfstream Racetrack for that show, and it was the first time I'd ever heard of the Dead. They spent a lot of time that day warming up their instruments, but I came away liking em a lot...
     

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