First impressions of the Nagaoka MP-110 phono cartridge

Discussion in 'Audio Hardware' started by dividebytube, Mar 11, 2014.

  1. 4011021

    4011021 Forum Resident

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    I see I'm using a low compliance cartridge with a light tonearm. I should correct that so. Nice, thanks again.
     
  2. patient_ot

    patient_ot Forum Resident

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    The MP-110 uses a Japanese method to measure compliance, so it can be a little confusing. Some people use a multiplier of 1.7 to get close to the compliance in Western measurements. Even so, those carts are designed, AFAIK, to perform best on medium mass tonearms - not the 6g low-mass tonearm you have. You could try adding a headshell weight to the tonearm, or maybe using heavy SoundSmith type screws as an experiment. I would personally just pick a cart that is more suitable for the arm.
     
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  3. JOnny Cox

    JOnny Cox Member

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    Been reading with interest and have just fitted a Nagaoka MP110 to my Rega RP3 (my first time changing cartridge from Elys2). Went well and sounding lovely straight out of box. Haven’t even aligned exactly yet as out of printer ink, will do that tomorrow. Hoping supposed break in is real but would be happy if stayed like this, also want to say I had a great buying experience with SNVinyl in Scotland, ordered Sunday and came today exactly when promised, to the hour and the best price I could find. Next will be a new Tangospinner sub platter!
     
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  4. Leonthepro

    Leonthepro Skeptically Optimistic Autodidact Debater

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    Break in is not actually demonstrated as real, at least not in the way that most people think.
     
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  5. 4011021

    4011021 Forum Resident

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    Good advice. I just switched it for an Ortofon 2M Blue which is still in break in period (5h so far). Not actually an upgrade, a side movement instead, but for the better in my system and to my ears. Also changed the turntable a few weeks ago. Much happier now.
     
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  6. Leonthepro

    Leonthepro Skeptically Optimistic Autodidact Debater

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    Its great that both options exist. For me the 2M blue is literally double the money compared to the Nag. I wouldnt go hoping for much more break in though, 5 hours should be more than plenty. ;^)
     
  7. 4011021

    4011021 Forum Resident

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    Interesting, here they're about the same price, Blue just a bit more expensive.
     
  8. Johnny Wong

    Johnny Wong Forum Resident

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    Anyone recommend a reputable online/ebay seller for one of these?
     
  9. 4011021

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  10. zombiemodernist

    zombiemodernist Forum Resident

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    Amazon has several options with prime shipping and their usual protection of customer. All these sales will be warranty free imports unless you buy from LP Gear or another domestic dealer.
     
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  11. Carraway

    Carraway Well-Known Member

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    I bought one from LP Gear. First time dealing with them, and they sent what I ordered.
     
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  12. Thomas_A

    Thomas_A Forum Resident

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    You can safely use almost any cartridge. 6 g arm + a 6 gram cartridge of 25 compliance gives 9,17 Hz resonance with is lower than recommended. 12-15 in compliance is gives 12-13 Hz resonance which should be better to reduce warp-induced noise.
     
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  13. Kiko1974

    Kiko1974 Forum Resident

    Has anybody compared this with the Sumiko Pearl? I got the Sumiko Pearl a month ago to replace my prematurely worn Denon DL-110 cart and after some hours to break in I find the Sumiko Pearl too "polite" for my taste. It tracks well, it has no sibilance or IGD problems but it sounds laid back and too neutral for my taste, it has no spark.
     
  14. Chris Schoen

    Chris Schoen Forum Resident

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    You want "spark"? Get an AT440 cart. :righton:
     
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  15. Kiko1974

    Kiko1974 Forum Resident

    Thank you for the advice but it's out of my price range right now, I just can't afford one at the moment.
     
  16. Chris Schoen

    Chris Schoen Forum Resident

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    I have had a few AT440's and now am on my second DL-110. I see that's what you had also. Why do you think it wore out so quickly?
    Was your cart adjusted correctly? If you are on a budget, you may find the Shure m44-7 a good choice (under $100) and really kicks *ss.
     
  17. marcfeld69

    marcfeld69 Forum Resident

    I have an AT95e and the DL-110. Would the Nagaoka 110 be better for cutting down on IGD and surface noise on 70s and 80s records?
     
  18. patient_ot

    patient_ot Forum Resident

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    The rolled off highs on that cart may cut down on surface noise slightly. IGD? It will be there, as it would be there on any cart with a bog standard elliptical stylus. It just depends how sensitive to IGD you are. For my own needs, I would not consider any Nagaoka other than the top model with the line contact stylus for playing back most of my collection. Unfortunately that cart is very expensive.
     
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  19. dbsea

    dbsea Forum Resident

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    I love the the MP-110 for somewhat noisy 70s pressings (vinyl quality, not damaged records) since it seems to push surface noise into the background. It does a better job of this than the AT95e, though that cartridge is also fairly forgiving of surface noise. My issue with the AT95e is that it is thin sounding with sometimes harsh treble. The MP-110 seems to retrieve just as much if not more detail, while sounding fuller, mellower and overall more pleasant. Can't speak to the Denon DL-110, having never owned one.
     
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  20. marcfeld69

    marcfeld69 Forum Resident

    That sounds like it might be my kind of needle.
     
  21. marcfeld69

    marcfeld69 Forum Resident

    Thanks but which is the ‘that cart’? The Denon?
     
  22. patient_ot

    patient_ot Forum Resident

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    No, the MP-500, is the top Nagaoka cart. The MP-110 will have the limitations I described in my post above.
     
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  23. 4011021

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    I'd love to try a MP-500. If it handles the bass like the 110 without its shortcomings it might be a winner.
     
  24. marcfeld69

    marcfeld69 Forum Resident

    I see. What about the DL-110 fine line as compared to any of the Nagaokas and even the AT95e? Especially as regards IGD and surface noise.
     
  25. marcfeld69

    marcfeld69 Forum Resident

    I never thought of the AT95e as thin-sounding, especially compared to the DL-110. It’s certainly warmer and fuller-sounding than the DL-110, but not by much, and I have comparatively little experience of vinyl still.
     

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