‘Francis Albert Sinatra & Antonio Carlos Jobim’ Expanded 50th Anniversary Edition

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Bob F, Feb 22, 2017.

  1. teag

    teag Forum Resident

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    I searched and could not find much on the album Sinatra & Company, which includes a side of additional songs with Jobim. Sorry if I have missed it.

    Does anyone know if this was recorded at the same time as the more well known album with Jobim? It has good sound but not as good a performance or song selection. Interesting album anyway.
     
  2. Bob F

    Bob F Senior Member Thread Starter

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    No. These were (7 of the 10) 1969 recordings with Eumir Deodato (vs. the 1967 album with Claus Ogerman). They were intended for the unreleased second Sinatra/Jobim album which had a few copies make it out on 8-track before being retracted. I'm sure it's been discussed here. The intended album was released on the Concord complete CD:

    Sinatra - Jobim Complete Reprise Recordings
     
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  3. bonjo

    bonjo Forum Resident

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    Regarding the mono mix: It seems to be getting a lot of praise here, but to me it just sounds sort of flat and overly compressed. The stereo is easier on the ears and has much more ambience. I have the original mono vinyl and the 2004 Rhino vinyl (the one cut by Kevin Gray).
     
  4. roda12

    roda12 WATERTOWN FOREVER

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    This is where Steve recommends the Mono mix as the only mix that gets it right! Just take his word! It's true
     
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  5. Vinylfindco

    Vinylfindco The Pressing Matters

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    He’s right, of course. I pulled out my KevinGray cut and noticed immediately that something was wrong with the vocals and even some of the music. Franks voice sounded distorted. I have a n original mono packed away somewhere, will have to reevaluate.
     
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  6. paulmock

    paulmock Forum Resident

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    WOW! I don't find that on the KG LP at all. Maybe my ears are not as "keen" as yours.
     
  7. Vinylfindco

    Vinylfindco The Pressing Matters

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    Really? Maybe it my particular pressing. I checked in to this thread to see if I could find out why I was hearing this on this issue and found Steve Hoffman’s explanation about the struggles to get a good remastering from what there is to work with. Vocals overloading into distortion particularly evident on the stereo issues.
     
  8. Steve Hoffman

    Steve Hoffman Your host Your Host

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    Bumping by request
     
  9. teag

    teag Forum Resident

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    The mono does sound good. But so does the K Gray stereo remaster. No distortion at all on my system. Maybe my VTA is set incorrectly and it takes the distortion out! Anyway, it sounds great to me.
     
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  10. Rick Bartlett

    Rick Bartlett Forum Resident

    it's a sonic delight for me. it's one of the few records you can put on and
    almost slip into a deep coma. one of the only records where you just stop
    doing whatever your doing, and sit back to listen.
     
  11. MLutthans

    MLutthans That's my spaghetti, Chewbacca! Staff

    8-track tape of the original album:
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  12. Benno123

    Benno123 Forum Resident

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    “If You Never Come To Me” twice? Was that to stretch the programming time out to be as close to equal as possible?
     
  13. MLutthans

    MLutthans That's my spaghetti, Chewbacca! Staff

    Ha! I hadn't even noticed that. o_O
     
  14. Steve Hoffman

    Steve Hoffman Your host Your Host

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    I Concentrate On You is on there twice as well. Geez. Maybe they split the songs? 8-Tracks sucked.
     
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  15. MLutthans

    MLutthans That's my spaghetti, Chewbacca! Staff

    Where's Waldo?
     
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  16. paulmock

    paulmock Forum Resident

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    I'll say it again...I HATED 8 Tracks!!!!
     
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  17. bozburn

    bozburn Forum Resident

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    Reminds me of one of my all-time favorite shows.


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    Dorothy: “I almost want to listen to 8 tracks with you. But we’d have to use Roses’s car.”
     
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  18. paulmock

    paulmock Forum Resident

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    "No Blanche...Danny Thomas is LEBANESE!!!!!"
     
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  19. MarkusGermany

    MarkusGermany WINNING

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    I reconstructed that collection with the EOTC, Sinatra and Company and the 3 tracks from the suitcase. What a wonderful collection compared to the horrible Concord edition.
     
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  20. Benno123

    Benno123 Forum Resident

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    I’m lazy, tired, and don’t feel well so I don’t want to do the searching ... the recent vinyl reissue of the SJ album, worth it or search out an original stereo and mono version?
     
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  21. MLutthans

    MLutthans That's my spaghetti, Chewbacca! Staff

    Original (or at least "earlier"), and I prefer stereo, but I think I'm in the minority on that one.
     
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  22. paulmock

    paulmock Forum Resident

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    Well that's an original excuse for not reading threads!
     
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  23. CBackley

    CBackley Chairman of the Bored

    I picked up an original mono pressing a while back, and it sounds fantastic. It wasn’t expensive either. I can’t speak to the stereo.
     
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  24. Benno123

    Benno123 Forum Resident

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    I just wanted a quick answer tonight, trying to decide what to burn up some amazon refund credit on .... lol!
     
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  25. roda12

    roda12 WATERTOWN FOREVER

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    Mono highly recommended. Just reading this thread I immediately feel like playing it. Sounds so gorgeous!
     
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