Frank Sinatra Conducts

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  1. Bob F

    Bob F Senior Member Thread Starter

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    He conducted at least one album for each of his record labels. And yes, he was into classical music in a big way.

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    ~ Frank's Albums: Sinatra Conducts
     
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    Bob F Senior Member Thread Starter

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    Sinatra conducts for other artists:

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  3. Bob F

    Bob F Senior Member Thread Starter

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    Related threads and posts:

    —> Instrumentals on vocalists' albums
    —> 10 Best Sinatra Albums
    —> Frank Sinatra Conducts Alex [sic] Wilder
    —> Studio Recording Techniques Through the Years - Photos Please!
    —> Sinatra / Capitol: General Purpose Sound Quality Discussion Thread
    —> What are the rarest official Sinatra CDs?
    —> Dean Martin at Capitol Records 1948- 1962
    —> Dean Martin at Capitol Records 1948- 1962
    —> The FRANK SINATRA recordings thread
    —> Listening To On Vinyl Now (Part 69)
    —> Listening To On Vinyl Now (Part 72)
    —> Listening to on Vinyl (Part 139)
    —> Listening to on Vinyl (Part 139)
    —> Listening to on vinyl (Part 150)
    —> Weekend-records-cocktails -- April showers/ Robin Trowers
    —> Listening to on Vinyl (Part 261)

    (I'm sure there are many others that can be found, but I'm "searched out.")

    Discuss among yourselves...
     
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    Bob F Senior Member Thread Starter

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    Some of the photos posted in the above threads have been reduced to thumbnails following the forum software conversion, but this is a great one (courtesy @apileocole). First recording session at the Capitol Tower, Studio B, February 22, 1956, for 'Frank Sinatra Conducts Tone Poems of Color':

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    Bob F Conducts Too Many Searches... ;)
     
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  6. MLutthans

    MLutthans That's my spaghetti, Chewbacca! Staff

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    For whatever reason, the original stereo LP I have of this title sounds awful, with telephone-line-quality tone, but the stereo reel-to-reel sounds nice. :crazy:
     
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    There's a Youtube clip of Frank on the Carson show where he (Frank) talks about Ravel's Daphnis and Chloe and Debussy's Sunken Cathedral, so yeah, I don't doubt that Frank was interested in classical music, especially Debussy/Ravel etc. Frank: Ebb Tide -- Debussy: La Mer
     
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    Bob F Senior Member Thread Starter

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    A classic:

     
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  9. MLutthans

    MLutthans That's my spaghetti, Chewbacca! Staff

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    "I don't fool around with all that other stuff."
    Unintended double-entendre? :whistle:
     
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  10. paulmock

    paulmock Forum Resident

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    Leave us not forget:

    "Thank you, Ludwig Van for the flights of fancy you take me on
    Thanks Mrs. Verdi for Joe
    and a special thanks to Giacomo!!!!
     
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    Hmmm...I don't have (what someone once referred to Mr. S as having for his keen sense of hearing) "elephant ears" but I am fortunate enough to own both a stereo and mono copy of the LP and they sound really good to me. Edge goes to the stereo for me.
     
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    paulmock Forum Resident

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    He don't look to happy there! :oops:
     
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    Did he actually study conducting? Did he read music? Or did he just do it his own way?
     
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  14. MLutthans

    MLutthans That's my spaghetti, Chewbacca! Staff

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    Well, it could be that I've got some whack-o bad pressing or something, as there certainly are other Reprise albums of the era that vary significantly from cut to cut. Like I said, my (particular) pressing stinks, but that's cool that you've got a goodie!
     
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    It's weird playing it, though because on the tracks used for A Man & His Music, I keep waiting to hear his narrations!
     
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  16. MLutthans

    MLutthans That's my spaghetti, Chewbacca! Staff

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    I get the feeling that it was a pretty high-stress day for all involved, literally day #1 for the new Capitol studios in the tower. Because the larger Studio A was not quite done yet, they had to squeeze all 50+ (IIRC) musicians into the smaller Studio B. I talked to John Palladino about this day, and he says that everybody was very anxious about the whole affair, as you can imagine they would be!
     
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    Plus, they were not too thrilled with the way those 2 studios sounded at first...right?
     
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    MLutthans That's my spaghetti, Chewbacca! Staff

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    Well, at minimum, they had to figure out the tricks to recording in these spaces, and that first session was really baptism by fire. IIRC, and I'd have to dig through my interview tapes to get John's actual quote on this, they set up some mics in there and did a little listening before this first session, but until you actually have a bunch of players in the room, you're just kind of relying on what has worked in past experience in former studios, and this was the first time they had players in the room, so it was an eye-opener, and the sound suuuuuuuuure was different than what they had perfected over at Melrose. They got it figured out quite well quite quickly, though. I mean, when was Nat's AFTER MIDNIGHT? I'd say that's pretty close to monophonic hi-fi perfection.

    John also commented on how quickly it became apparent that Capitol had just spent huge sums of $$$ building this state-of-the-are studio for hi-fi mono recording, then within the first few months STEREO reared its head and a lot of technical improvisation had to be done to make that work, as the design made zero provision for stereo.
     
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  19. Bob F

    Bob F Senior Member Thread Starter

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    This is the instrumental breakdown for the 55-piece symphony orchestra conducted by Sinatra:

    3 trumpets
    2 trombones
    1 bass trombone
    3 French horns
    2 flutes
    2 oboes
    2 clarinets
    2 bassoons
    16 violins
    6 violas
    6 celli
    1 harp
    1 piano
    1 celeste
    1 guitar
    3 string bass
    3 drums/percussion
     
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    Bob F Senior Member Thread Starter

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    Cute exchange in another thread:
     
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  21. MLutthans

    MLutthans That's my spaghetti, Chewbacca! Staff

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    (Pointlessly closed thread reopened.)
    These shots from the Syms sessions have appeared today on Ebay:
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    Looks like they have an RE-20 as a conductor's talkback mic. Subtle.
     
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    MLutthans That's my spaghetti, Chewbacca! Staff

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    (Not a rare photo, I realize, but it's kind of cool that the cover photo came from the actual sessions for the album.)
     
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  23. rangerjohn

    rangerjohn Forum Resident

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    Great photos, Matt! Is the Syms album available on CD? I remember it being hard to get. I also remember really loving their version of "Old Devil Moon."
     
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  24. Bob F

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    No.

    [Edit:] I do notice someone is selling homemade needledrops here: SYLVIA SYMS SYMS BY SINATRA CD
    (Not an endorsement. I know nothing about the seller.)
     
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    Bob F Senior Member Thread Starter

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    Reposted from another thread by @paulmock:

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    Listening to this album on the 65th [55th] anniversary of it's recording. It REALLY is a very nice, easy listening, mood music LP. I will have to play it more often.
     
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