Genesis Wind and Wuthering LP pressing question??

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Jvalvano, Jul 29, 2008.

  1. Jvalvano

    Jvalvano Well-Known Member

    Location:
    NH
    I was wondering if anyone here can comment on the sound quality of Wind and Wuthering on the ATCO label vs. Charisma Mad Hatter? I'm thinking of picking up an original UK pressing of WW on the Charisma Mad Hatter label. I have the ATCO. Is the Charisma any different? better?

    Thanks
    John
  2. If I get a chance, I'll do a straight compare; I have a few copies, one UK original, one Atco, a Japanese and a UK blue label 80s reissue. I won't for the sake of sanity, listen to 'em all at once!
  3. Jvalvano

    Jvalvano Well-Known Member

    Location:
    NH
    Thanks!
  4. LesPaul666

    LesPaul666 Active Member

    Location:
    New Jersey
    I have all three, and IMHO, The Japan Charisma LP sounds the best.
  5. izgoblin

    izgoblin Well-Known Member

    I can't comment as I've never owned any, but I thought a big complaint was that on both the UK and US vinyl there is a painful absence of bass. Or am I mixing that up and that was just the original CDs?

    LesPaul666, do you recall why you preferred the Japanese Charisma? Did they happen to boost the lower frequencies?
  6. mr_mjb1960

    mr_mjb1960 I'm a Tarrytowner 'Til I die!

    The ATCO pressing sounds weak by comparison ...like dishwater......try the UK version instead...it may be better. Michael Boyce
  7. Runt

    Runt Forum Resident

    Location:
    Motor City
    I've got an original UK Charisma pressing (with textured album cover). Haven't played it in awhile, but recall being unimpressed. As someone mentioned previously, an obvious lack of low end (which is also evident on some CD versions).
  8. LesPaul666

    LesPaul666 Active Member

    Location:
    New Jersey
    To be quite honest, aside from it being much fuller than any of the other pressings I've heard(UK and US, etc), It's got much more life and clarity, than the others. WHen I get a chance I'll do a little needle drop of it.:)

    No contest, IMHO.
  9. LesPaul666

    LesPaul666 Active Member

    Location:
    New Jersey
  10. VinylNutz

    VinylNutz Active Member

    I had an unimpressive Canadian ATCO for years and picked up an original UK Charisma last year. It wasn't much better. :shake:
  11. LesPaul666

    LesPaul666 Active Member

    Location:
    New Jersey
    They're *both* lousy. Give the Japan LP a shot.:agree:
  12. VinylNutz

    VinylNutz Active Member

    I'll give it a try! Thanks.
  13. Jvalvano

    Jvalvano Well-Known Member

    Location:
    NH
    Thanks for the info. I'll try to track one down.
  14. Robert Lan

    Robert Lan New Member

    Location:
    Taipei
    I have the original UK and Japanese pressings. Here are 96/24 .aiff excerpts of each—files are around 100MB each.

    The Japanese excerpt is here.

    The UK excerpt is there.

    Enjoy !

    Robert
  15. LesPaul666

    LesPaul666 Active Member

    Location:
    New Jersey
    Thanks! Now I can compare my Japan clip that I posted with yours.;)

    Mediafire.com rules. No waiting!:D
  16. Paul K

    Paul K Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Toronto, Canada
    Your file isn't downloading currently...
  17. LesPaul666

    LesPaul666 Active Member

    Location:
    New Jersey
  18. World of Genesis

    World of Genesis Active Member

    Location:
    USA
    Which Charisma LP from the UK were you considering the pinkish Mad Hatter one or the 80s blue reissue with the newer Charisma logo (big difference).
  19. Robert Lan

    Robert Lan New Member

    Location:
    Taipei
    I'll try it out.
  20. Paul K

    Paul K Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Toronto, Canada
  21. OldJohnRobertson

    OldJohnRobertson Truly Fine Citizen

    Location:
    Durham, NC
    I love my original Atco SD 36-144 pressing.
  22. LesPaul666

    LesPaul666 Active Member

    Location:
    New Jersey

    Thanks, Jamie!

    I really think this pressing is more what they intended for this album to sound like. The best CD V/C versions are not bad, but it seems this Charisma Japan LP got the mastering right, and maybe they just had good tapes to work with. Who knows, it could have been cut in the UK and the metalwork sent over to Nippon.

    I haven't listened to this LP in years, I put it on for the needle drop, and had to listen to the whole thing.:D
  23. The V/C CD is by far the best digital version but your needle drop are much better. There's actually some low end! :)

    I have this pressing too. Maybe someday (when my table is returned) I'll do a nice transfer.
  24. Dr. Merkwürdigli

    Dr. Merkwürdigli Active Member

    Location:
    Oslo, Norway
    Compared to my Germany made LP I think this sample sounds slightly “smiley-faced” being a little too bright in spots. To me the Germany LP I have sounds a little more balanced.

    This is the LP I have: Catalog number 9124 003 and matrix “10 AA9124003 1Y 320 and 10 AA9124003 2Y 320”