Goliath-New Amazon series starring Billy Bob Thornton

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  1. kwadguy

    kwadguy Senior Member

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    BTW...Goliath has been renewed for a second season. Apparently, there were numerous behind the scenes issues regarding both direction for the second season AND personality issues on the show. I wonder who...

    ‘Goliath’ Renewed For Season 2 With Clyde Phillips As New Showrunner

    Amazon has ordered a second season of drama series Goliath from David E. Kelley and Jonathan Shapiro, bringing in Clyde Phillips (Dexter) as day-to-day showrunner. Kelley, Shapiro and Ross Fineman remain executive producers alongside Phillips.

    The renewal comes four months after the release of Goliath and a month after the show won a Golden Globe for star Billy Bob Thornton. While the series was well received by critics and drew strong viewership according to the limited ratings data released by Amazon, I hear there was a difference in opinion on its creative direction going forward and personality issues on the show.

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  2. RayS

    RayS A Little Bit Older and a Little Bit Slower

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    So was it just me or did Brittany's accent drift after the first few episodes? She started out sounding like she was from the New York area ... then she suddenly didn't. Her involvement in the last two episodes didn't make a whole lot of sense.

    Re: sexual politics, the "fire alarm" scene definitely stretched credulity for me, although the earlier scenes where Cooperman appeared to be on the verge of, um, clicking his clicker while watching the Mouse on the security camera were appropriately creepy.
     
  3. agentalbert

    agentalbert Senior Member

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    Yeah, her final scene was odd. I wonder if something more was cut from the episode.

    Another one is the girlfriend of the ex-employee engineer who was testifying. Why did they have to bother having that scene of him confessing what he did to her and McBride telling her how important it was that she be by his side. I didn't see her at the trial at all and certainly don't see how anything was diffused regarding what he did. Was it just there because a writer felt like making a point about "revenge porn"?

    I am looking forward to the next season. Billy Bob was great. I hope Molly Parker is involved again somehow, as I've always been a fan of hers.
     
  4. Daedalus

    Daedalus I haven't heard it all.....

    Just watched the whole Season 1. Great acting in a pretty entertaining plot. The ending was pat, rushed and contrived but what the hay.
     
  5. Thomas D

    Thomas D Forum Resident

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    Season 2 is now up! I'm going to have to interrupt Peaky Blinders to watch this!
     
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  6. sberger

    sberger Dream Baby Dream Thread Starter

    Love this show.
     
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  7. leemelone

    leemelone Forum Resident

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    I watched the first 2 episodes of season 2 and it's not as good as season 1 so far. Losing William Hurt, Maria Bello and Molly Parker is a big loss in the acting department and the story seems a little too been there, done that. Hopefully it will get better in the last 6 episodes.
     
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  8. Deesky

    Deesky Forum Resident

    Haven't started watching yet, but William Hurt's character in S1 was a pretty terrible caricature.
     
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  9. sberger

    sberger Dream Baby Dream Thread Starter

    Yup I agree. Not a great role.
     
  10. GregM

    GregM The expanding man

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    Sorry to hear that. I enjoyed Season 1, had some unexpected twists and turns, and fulfilled my Better Call Saul fix for lawyer dramas.
     
  11. Deesky

    Deesky Forum Resident

    I'm glad you enjoyed it (as did I, more or less), but I really don't think the show is anywhere in the same league as Better Call Saul.
     
  12. GregM

    GregM The expanding man

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    No, not in the same league, but the same genre about a flunky lawyer trying to punch above his weight. The Night Of...better still.
     
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  13. Brenald79

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    I think S2 is pretty great so far after 5 episodes. It’s actually more of a Law & Order type story about the Cartel than a legal thriller. There’s some seriously twisted stuff here that the weird sex scene with William Hurt from last season has nothing on lol!
     
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  14. Brenald79

    Brenald79 Forum Resident

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    I’ve seen the whole thing. It’s quite good and not at all what I expected. Doctor Foster is the last show I can think of that shocks like this did!
     
  15. He's gone.

    Season two is very very good.
     
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  16. Neil Anderson

    Neil Anderson Forum Resident

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    Really irritated me
    the way they killed off Lou Diamond Phillips. As soon as he walked out to show his friends his new suit, I said, oh boy, he's gonna killed. Sure enough, he gets shot on the street, and it was very similar to the way a character was killed off (by getting hit by a car) in the first season. At some point, people are going to start saying, yeah, he's a great lawyer, but it's pretty risky being one of his clients.
     
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  17. It surprised me but it didn't irritate me. The car thing....well we did find out who was the intended victim unlike the second where they got their victim.
     
  18. Neil Anderson

    Neil Anderson Forum Resident

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    it didn't surprise me at all, i thought they totally telegraphed it.
     
  19. Brenald79

    Brenald79 Forum Resident

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    Yeah I wished that didn't happen. I was like him as an actor (Longmire especially) and was happy to see him with BBT.
     
  20. Neil Anderson

    Neil Anderson Forum Resident

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    i've watched episodes 3 through 5 tonight. 5 ended w/ quite the cliffhanger, so might go for the sixth.
     
  21. dmiller458

    dmiller458 Forum Resident

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    Loved both seasons. Loved William Hurt as Cooperman.
     
  22. Steve Hoffman

    Steve Hoffman Your host Your Host

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    I thought the entire second season was dicey, personally.
     
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  23. Chrome_Head

    Chrome_Head Planetary Resident

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    Been watching the 2nd season of this great show this whole past weekend--got up to and finished episode 7 last night:

    Holy crap! I thought Ep7 was brilliant--tense as hell, lots of shades of Breaking Bad & Tarantino to me.

    I thought this season started out quite good, dragged a bit in the middle, but has gained a lot of momentum here at the end. Looking forward to watching the last S2 chapter tonight.
     
  24. Thomas D

    Thomas D Forum Resident

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    At the beginning of ep. 7 I seriously thought I'd signed on to the wrong show. It turned out to be a pretty good episode. It sort of reminded me of the Breaking Bad episode where Walt and Jesse were held hostage at that ranch house in the middle of nowhere with Tuco, which, after their esacape, led to Walt's alleged "fugue state" (LOL) as an excuse to his wife. Here Billy really did have amnesia -- but leading into it. It would have been nice to have had more of an explanation of how that whole thing occurred, but since the season is only 8 ep's I guess they had to leave a lot of stuff out.
     
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  25. Chrome_Head

    Chrome_Head Planetary Resident

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    I thought they did a great job of disorienting the viewer to go along with Billy's confusion at his situation. Fantastic.

    It was also a "bottle episode" (in the tradition of Breaking Bad's S3 "Fly" episode with Walt & Jesse in their lab for the entire hour), where it's pretty much all self-contained in the house and is very claustrophobic:

    Great effect I thought where even when Billy and his cohort escape, they are caught up in the street fair and it continues the claustrophobia. Got to say, this episode was some of the best TV I've seen in a long time. And Christ, Billy giving the girl captor the face full of the scalding water! :yikes:)
     
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