Got Jerry Garcia solo anyone?*

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  1. Crispy Rob

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    Good compilation and great track. Step up!
     
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  2. Crispy Rob

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    Classic in my mind as it was one of the first, if not the first, JGB tapes I got - very widely available back in the day.
     
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  3. Crispy Rob

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    I like the song selection, but the band is a bit too L.A. studio slick to be a good fit for Jerry (although I am not knocking L.A. studio slickness from the 1970s in general, I love Steely Dan for instance). A worthy experiment that is somewhat fun to listen to, but not one I go to nearly as often as Cats, Reflections or the self-titled.
     
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  4. Crispy Rob

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    Hunter is well worth seeing live if you ever get the chance. Saw him at the Fillmore and then two shows at the Moore Theater in Seattle, all in '97. In Seattle he played China Cat->Dark Star->China Cat->Dark Star->China Cat->The Eleven->China Cat. Whew! Fun shows, I helped my buddy who was officially filming by recording the audio (setting levels for Hunter, who would always shout to a new level suddenly, was a stressful nightmare for a layperson like me), and we got to hang out with him and talk after the second show, the conversation kept going outside as he and his manager got in their car outside. Incredibly gracious and a class act all the way. I never followed up and got copies of the soundboard tapes I recorded there - I need to get on that!!!!!
     
  5. Crispy Rob

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    Pretty sure he re-recorded the vocals on Rumrunners, too, although I never picked that one up on CD. It's one of the few of his that I don't own an official copy of, although I have a cassette dub of the original with Jack O' Roses on the other side in the basement somewhere. Finally did pick up a vinyl copy of Jack O' Roses last year, and have both versions of Tiger Rose. It's One Thing To Try is a great forgotten Hunter track. Garcia is all over those first two albums... I have all of the rest of Hunter's stuff through Liberty although I don't have Box of Rain or any of the other later releases. Should catch up someday, not that there is all that much else out there.
     
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  6. ianuaditis

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    I 'accidentally' left that at my mother's house a while back, knowing damn well she would like it.

    It's good, but my least favorite of his solo studio records.
     
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    I've been curious about the Keith & Donna record for a while so I bought a LP copy yesterday. Looking forward playing it for the first time
     
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    Cool story Rob!
    Did you ask Mr Hunter to explain Dark Star? :nyah:
     
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  9. Crispy Rob

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    I'd rank it higher than Run For the Roses, much as I love the title track of that one, but it is 4 out of 5 of the solo studio albums for me, and there is a big gap between 3 and 4.
     
  10. Crispy Rob

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    If you gotta ask that, you ain't gonna know. I did learn the true meaning of "eight-sided whispering hallelujah hat rack", though.

    All kidding aside, I did get to ask him about his favorite Dylan song (he'd included Shelter from the Storm and Lily, Rosemary and the Jack of Hearts over those two nights). He gave the correct answer: Visions of Johanna.
     
  11. Crispy Rob

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    It's pretty good, especially Who Was John. Not earth-shattering, but you will be glad you have it kind of good.
     
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  12. libertycaps

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    Hoping the 10 bonus tracks on the 2004 Rhino remaster does it some good. The LP is just ah-ight.
     
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  13. adamos

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    On a related note, I've been thinking about tracking down a copy of the All Good Things CD box set, because my old JG studio CDs are scratched up and living in a Case Logic CD binder, a bit worse for wear. Can anyone comment on the bonus tracks and disc six with the additional outtakes, etc?
     
  14. Crispy Rob

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    The bonus material is mostly pretty strong, with the exception of most of the outtakes from the first album. The 7th "All Good Things Redux" bonus disc has a couple of my favorite bonus tracks, a version of I Saw Her Standing There that is much better than the Run for the Roses one, and the T.L.E.O. Jam, so worth tracking that down if it doesn't cost you and arm and a leg (which I suspect it might).
     
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  15. adamos

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    Thanks!
     
  16. DrLunchbox

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    I really like the bonus tracks on Cats Under the Stars. It's a strong album to begin with, and I don't think the bonus tracks negatively affect it at all.
     
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  18. libertycaps

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    Listening to the first 4 Rhino remaster Jerry Garcia/Band solo CDs today. As mentioned the bonus tracks are a revelation and tasty good. Catch myself trying to decide if i'm in church or in carny row at the fair. Compliments and Cats Under the Stars so woefully under appreciated.
     
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  19. Crispy Rob

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    Especially Cats, as good as anything he ever did in the studio. It sucks that he was so proud of that album and it sold so poorly. I think it's his best solo album, and better than all but a handful or so of GD studio albums.
     
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  20. libertycaps

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    The more i listen to the Jerry solo catalog, the more i think the GoGD was actually more Bobby's band than not.
     
  21. bzfgt

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    I thought it was Phil's band.
     
  22. libertycaps

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    Fair enough. But historically, Phil was asked to join by Jerry.
     
  23. ianuaditis

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    Can't remember who said it, maybe one of you folks, or prehaps the post-grad GD faculty at the various blogs. Anyway the story goes that was really the last Garcia-led studio project. He played on some others, but that album was his last gasp at crafting a studio album.

    But Garcia and Phil were behind the decision to fire Weir (and Pigpen.)

    Which led to Garcia, Phil and the drummers jamming at the Matrix, with a revolving cast, billed as Mickey and the Hartbeats....this is turn led to Garcia's participation in a regular jam at the Matrix that came to be centered around keyboardist Howard Wales.

    At that jam, Garcia met John Kahn and Bill Vitt, who introduced him to Merle Saunders, etc. etc.

    So you could look at it as Weir's fault the Garcia Band got started.
     
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  24. libertycaps

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    Fair play, but let's be thankful that the talk of firing Ace was just talk.
    That happened fairly early in the game, IIRC. '68? '69?
     
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  25. ianuaditis

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    68.
    But it wasn't all talk; when the topic comes up, Weir has said multiple times 'I was fired." He hit the woodshed, and you can start to hear in 1969 the emergence of his distinctive rhythm style that really came into full bloom starting in 1970.

    As Garcia told it: "It didn’t take. We fired them, all right, but they just kept coming back.”
     
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