GrooveTracer Platters

Discussion in 'Audio Hardware' started by Wasatch, Sep 18, 2012.

  1. Wasatch Active Member

    Location:
    Layton, Utah
    I was considering swapping out platters. I was thinking about the Acrylic or the Delrin Platter. Anyone with experience on a Rega P5? What difference's did you hear? Is it worth it? I'm very interested in knowing your thoughts.
  2. mcjfsn Active Member

    Have you already got the GT subplatter?
  3. Wasatch Active Member

    Location:
    Layton, Utah
    Yes
  4. mcjfsn Active Member

    Guess I should have looked at your profile!:sigh:

    Sorry I can't help you - I stuck with the glass on mine, but there is plenty of discussion on this topic here and on the Vinyl Engine forum.
    Cheers!
  5. ElizabethH Well-Known Member

    Location:
    SE Wisconsin,USA
    I own a P5. I am sticking with the glass platter.
    I would like to get the subplatter. and the dual belt pulley.
    And.. maybe the counterweight which hangs under the arm.
    Otherwise i am fine.
  6. Coldacre Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Melbourne
    I own a P3-24 and have both the subplatter and acrylic platter. I prefer it over the glass. one... I hear a little more bass presence, and two.... it makes changing records so much easier, eliminating static. the felt mats were a PITA, not sorry to see them go.
  7. Wasatch Active Member

    Location:
    Layton, Utah
    Thanks. I use a Herbie mat, also so much better than the felt mat.
  8. hal jones Member

    Location:
    Waterloo, ON.
    What are the advantages of the Delrin over the acrylic?
  9. Jim in Houston Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Houston, TX, USA
    I had the ref/subplatter and acrylic platter on my P3-24 and now have the ref/subplatter delerin platter on my P5 so I never compared the two platters on the same TT.

    I have to admit I bought the delirin simply because it looks so cool, more hi-end. I know Clearaudio uses delrin platters. The theory is that the delrin is closer in composition to vinyl so you get a binding effect. I do know the image sounds much more solid than on the glass platter.

    but for me the elimination of static is the one thing I can't go back to with the glass and wool mat. it is also easier for me to pick up and flip the records.
  10. swvcc Active Member

    Location:
    KY
    How difficult is it to install the GT subplatter?
  11. Northrnsthg Formerly SP68

    Location:
    NYC
    Do you keep the platter spinning while you flip sides with the acrylic platter? I've been doing that with the glass/felt and it makes life so much easier. But yeah, there is some static.
  12. Wasatch Active Member

    Location:
    Layton, Utah
    It does look cool. :righton: So your not running anything on top of the platter, right?
  13. Wasatch Active Member

    Location:
    Layton, Utah
    It's pretty easy actually. Remove the glass platter, remove belt, remove subplatter, remove bearing. Put new bearing in, oil up the new subplatter, remove any excess oil, put belt back on, put glass platter back on. Make sure the glass platter is seated properly on the subplatter.
  14. Jim in Houston Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Houston, TX, USA
    Right, it looks so cool I quit playing records and just watch it spin. :D

    No, I do play records and I use a TTweights 1lb weight with bubble to completely bind the vinyl to the platter.

    Here's a pic of the weight in action with my P3-24/acrylic combo.

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  15. Erocka2000 Member

    Location:
    Brooklyn, NY, USA
    I'm not sure Rega Turntables are meant to be used with record weights. Might put too much stress on the motor.
  16. Wasatch Active Member

    Location:
    Layton, Utah
    I've heard this also.
  17. sacsongs Active Member

    Location:
    St. Louis , MO
    Agree that it is that simple. Plus if you ever need to speak with Frank, you could not meet a nicer guy. Also, he has lots of knowledge in all things vinyl.
  18. Jim in Houston Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Houston, TX, USA
    Bill (KT88) said it would be fine. He said it wouldn't sound good but that's for me to decide. But remember, he doesn't approve of (endorse) any Rega upgrades.
  19. Jim in Houston Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Houston, TX, USA
  20. Coldacre Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Melbourne
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    Yes sir
  21. Wasatch Active Member

    Location:
    Layton, Utah
    I believe the Rega manual states not to turn the table off during a listening session.
  22. Jim in Houston Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Houston, TX, USA
    It also says don't clean you records. :)
  23. Jim in Houston Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Houston, TX, USA
    Too cool coldacre
  24. thegage Well-Known Member

    I recently installed a Groovetracer delrin platter (black) on my P5. I also have the Groovetracer subplatter and counterweight. There is a clear contrast between the delrin and the stock glass/felt. As noted by Frank, the delrin gives a much more balanced frequency response, as well as improved soundstaging. After first firing up the delrin platter the sound seemed soft, with reduced transients and a loss of high frequency information. After living with it for a while and going back and forth with the glass/felt I no longer feel that way. Instead I think the glass/felt artificially highlights certain frequencies. It certainly gives a lively presentation, but one that is less accurate. For jazz, or acoustic or classical I think you get more out of the delrin. If your listening tends toward lots of rock or propulsive music you may find the delrin less satisfying.

    John K.
  25. Coldacre Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Melbourne
    cheers Jim. the Groovetracer add-ons sure bring an element of class to an already fine table. the under-slung counterweight improves tracking too. Frank sure makes great stuff.

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