H-Bomb of the loudness wars

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by seg763, Apr 1, 2008.

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  1. elgreco

    elgreco Groove Meister

    A further description of their music from their Myspace page -

    Breath in: snuff a line speed, a half hour jump on your cheap amplifiers, salad yet once a half hour with you yet cheaper guitar against the wall. Write eleven pop songs, lay the emphasis on cryptic and forget everything your song teacher you ever learned has.

    That explains it all, now doesn't it? :winkgrin:
     
  2. Javimulder

    Javimulder New Member

    Location:
    Spain
    The way things are going, I wonder if the process won't start reversing at some point... I mean, once you reach zero, where else is there to go?
    "Remastered from the original tapes for natural dynamics"??
     
  3. Cyaneyes

    Cyaneyes Forum Resident

    http://www.myspace.com/timesnewviking Have a listen and see if you still think the distortion was created in the digital domain. I sure don't.
     
  4. tfarney

    tfarney Active Member

    Location:
    Charlotte,NC
    I'm sure it's terrible. Of course that doesn't make watching music any less pointless.

    Tim
     
  5. -Alan

    -Alan Senior Member

    Location:
    Connecticut, USA
    They can have their "loud and distorted" and I get to keep my money. If fans don't buy this because of the sound, then things will change.
     
  6. Zal

    Zal Recording engineer

    Location:
    Brooklyn, NY, USA
    Not meaning to be perceived as racial...but


    WHITE NOISE

    by the looks of it.
     
  7. Perisphere

    Perisphere Forum Resident


    :D

    I wonder if this is part of a movement toward a kind of final frontier: NO-fi?!
     
  8. Perisphere

    Perisphere Forum Resident

    Since all that I've seen and heard of this lot are via the Matador site and MySpace, I must ask, does anyone here (A) have the CD or other format copies of any of these songs, and (B) are they as distorted (sound the same) as these bits?

    We need names, as well: Who recorded, who mixed, and who mastered this stuff? And the 'producer(s--sic)' need to be named and shamed too!
     
  9. Ma Kelly

    Ma Kelly Senior Member

    Location:
    England
    i dunno....i downloaded the song "My Head" and its pretty good. Its just a slab of noise...literally! but thats what its meant to be. Its meant to assault your ears and slap you around the face. i like it!
     
  10. genesisfan

    genesisfan Forum Resident

    Location:
    Santiago, Chile
    That's the sort of comments that support the record companies' standard policies towards CD masterings :shake:

    This reminds me REM Accelerate. Despite it has some bloody great stuff on it, it sounds like s***, but given the fans give great reviews and nevermind the sound issue, the big shots of the music business think "They like it as it, so let's keep doing the same"
     
  11. rene smalldridge

    rene smalldridge Senior Member

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    manhattan,kansas
    ............But why bother downloading songs if that's what you like?.There are people quite willing to perform that task for you at your local pub I am sure. Me,myself, listening to the Masochism Tango by Spike Jones was always sufficient.
     
  12. vonwegen

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  13. vonwegen

    vonwegen Forum Resident

    Hmmm... I thought Tom Lehrer did that tune.
     
  14. Ma Kelly

    Ma Kelly Senior Member

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    England
    yeah yeah i know! i just think in this case the music is supposed to be abrasive and the mastering only adds to that. whether that was a concious decision i dont know (but i'd hazard a guess at no)
     
  15. Ma Kelly

    Ma Kelly Senior Member

    Location:
    England
    i dont download songs. Who says music needs to be comfortable? like i said above, its supposed to be abrasive, its supposed to assault your ears. and it does just that! doesnt mean i'd want all my music to sound like that.
     
  16. rene smalldridge

    rene smalldridge Senior Member

    Location:
    manhattan,kansas
    ................Correct. Once again I am posting without consuming enough coffee first.
     
  17. gloomrider

    gloomrider Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Hollywood, CA, USA
    I agree with those that point out this will be the textbook example of how not to master a CD.

    Perhaps we have just witnessed the peak of the Loudness Wars?
     
  18. I would venture that that would probably be something by Merzbow. Anyone ever see a waveform from his CD Pulse Demon, which was once touted as the loudest CD ever?
     
  19. Christopher J

    Christopher J Norme Con Ironie

    Location:
    Fort Worth, TX
    Since you asked...here's "Woodpecker No. 2" from Pulse Demon(not retouched, honest).
     

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  20. Perisphere

    Perisphere Forum Resident

    I haven't. Perhaps you or someone can post samples of them, and excerpt clips?
     
  21. Here is a picture of Times New Viking from the Matador website. Is that a Bose subwoofer inside of the bass drum?
     

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  22. bizmopeen

    bizmopeen Senior Member

    Location:
    Oswego, IL
    Looks like they have a track titled "Imagine Dead John Lennon" on their MySpace site. That should make them even more friends around here...
     
  23. imagnrywar

    imagnrywar Senior Member

    Location:
    San Francisco
    haha, i have that Merzbow CD. it's a great release if you're into that kind of music.
     
  24. izgoblin

    izgoblin Forum Resident

    You want an assault and a slap? Listen to Captain Beefheart's TROUT MASK REPLICA. Does it a thousand times better and its pain is on a much more pleasurable level.
     
  25. Christopher J

    Christopher J Norme Con Ironie

    Location:
    Fort Worth, TX
    Now that I've had a chance to listen to the .mp3 at the Matador site, I'd have to give it a rating of "just OK." The second song had a better vibe to it than the first and I imagine they're a buttsmacker of a live band, but neither song offered anything I hadn't heard before - and with more gusto and less irony. If this was back in 1994 they might have been worth digging through used CD shop racks full of Matador promos for, but for my 2008 dollar - I pass.
     
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