Has anyone here ever met Bernard Sumner of New Order and anyone a fan?

If so, whats he like?

Also, curious how many here are fans...and if any fun concert stories.

And opinions on the new album "Music Complete"?

 

Never met him. Probably a miserable sod, just like me.
Love New Order.
Music Complete is an excellent album, well worth a listen. Can’t believe that after all these years they’re still coming out with great music.

 

Agree with all but miserable sod part. He seems happy these days.

 

never met him. agree that Music Complete was a nice surprise, I prefer it to any full album since Republic (although I also finally gave Lost Sirens another full listen recently and didn't think that was nearly as bad as I did when it came out) .

 

I've never met any of them. Never seen them in concert.
I love Lowlife and Power Corruption and Lies

 

I met "The other three" at a J&MC gig.

 

I like them, i have the cd's up to and including substance, kinda lost interest but they are not the only band i lost interest in, I've seen them live, Suagr-Cubes, New Order and P.I.L triple play at the meadowlands NJ

 

Met Hooky and he was a twat. It didn't help that I met a very young Bjork at the same gig and she was absolutely delightful and gorgeous.

 

Not surprising. He certainly comes off that way in the Joy Division documentary, whereas Bernie seems a lot more sympathetic by comparison.

 

Going by Hooky's New Order biography Bernie's a twat. And Hooky's probably a twat too. What do you get with spoiled British rock stars on unimaginable amounts of liquor and cocaine? Twats.

 

I met Bernard backstage after a New Order show in Brooklyn, not much of a story to it but he was nice.

 

Music Complete has gotta be up there with Technique. I know that probably sounds like pushing it a bit..but it really is that good and feels like a continuation in some songs. Or more like what would've been a 4th Electronic (Bernard and Johnny Marr's side project from the 80s and 90s) album. Very pleased with it.

Hope they get another album out and not wait 10 more years again! Lol

 

Also, regarding Hookys book, I take a lot of it with a grain of salt.

 

Bernard has a book too, and he was more gracious toward Hook actually.

The truth is somewhere in between the two.

 

99's Twisted Tenderness was a very guitar orientated album. Sounds nothing like Music Complete. Maybe parts of 96's Raise The Pressure, but it also was probably heavily influenced by Karl Bartos.

 

This. We have to get past the assumed degree of assumed twatiness.

I have all three Hook books, essential reading, and I bet Bernard's is a must-read as well.
The more documentation we get on JD/NO, the better.

 

Hooky is a better writer.

Bernard is more even handed at times, but less inclined to admit his fails than Hooky.

So, you pays yr money etc

 

Yes. Raise the Pressure era.

Twisted Tenderness is my favorite of the 3 Electronic albums.

Music Complete just made me think of how a 4th would have been progression wise. Or parts of it.

Tutti Frutti lol

Or! Bernards Bad Lieutenant side project... ie Academic, Superheated-esque, etc.

 

'A better writer" - ?!!! You do know that these guys are ghost written?!!!

 

Do you have any proof that Hooky's books are ghost-written?

 

Concrete proof - like asking him myself? Nope.

Do I possess common sense? Yes. So, he just happens to be a superb bass player AND a great writer too??? Mmm... Oh, and ghost writers work prolifically with famous people.

Oh yeah... and I have a First Class Honours degree in English but it doesn't make me a great writer. Or any kind of one. And I doubt Hooky has one of those.

 

I had a hunt around, didn't find any solid evidence either way. Found a reference to Andrew Holmes who is a gw, but it only says he helped him with the book, and you would expect anybody who wrote a book to have some assistance at some point. Have neither found Peter saying "I wrote that book without a ghost" or something like that.

 

Never met any of them but Barney always comes across like an unremarkable middle-aged bloke from Salford in interviews. It was a bit disappointing, at first, when I wanted him to behave more like a popstar but it became quite reassuring in the end. Hooky, OTOH, comes across much cooler.

 

I had dinner with Bernard and Peter Hook about sixteen years ago. I was incredibly poor and ordered a starter as a main. I got teased by someone for that - not Bernard, who was a bit worse for wear, but polite and generally welcoming. I think I spoke to him once but I don't remember what about. I saw him at another event (working in PR) and it was my job to make sure he had his drinks for the night - copious amounts of Cointreau.

 

Have you read Hook’s books? However they’re put together, they don’t read like the typical conventionally constructed, functional, bland “autobiographies” put together by ghostwriters for people who can’t actually write (like Bernard). I don’t know whether he actually sits at a computer or if they’re transcribed from hours of him talking or what, but they very much seem like his own thoughts spewed onto the page (at great length).