Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by frimleygreener, Mar 13, 2018.
Nick Drake (assuming he could have got himself together)
Maybe because the vocalist saw that there was more money to be made being Mick Jagger in a Rolling Stones tribute act..
Now Rumer, she could have a good career being a Karen Carpenter tribute act..
Sometimes because of drugs but also because musical tastes changed and opportunities dried up but so many jazz artists who didn’t fulfill their potential. I’ll start with Tina Brooks, sideman on Hubbard’s Open Seseme and a few McLean and Freddie Redd albums in the early 60s Tina had an amazing four album run with Blue Note: Minor Move/True Blue/Back to the Tracks/The Waiting Game, that should have made him a star. Unfortunately those albums sat in the Blue Note vaults and got released after he had died. Great song writer and sax man, got chewed up and spit out by the music industry.
I actually think he completely redeemed himself with How The West Was Won. It wouldn’t’ve been as special if he’d been churning out albums every three or four years since 1981z
I'm a big BC fan, and I'd agree they didn't pan out to be the truly great band I'd hoped they'd become.
I love 'em but I can't claim they fired on all cylinders through their career. The 1st 2 albums were terrific, the 3rd was pretty good, and then it all became very up and down.
Though maybe they did live up to their potential and we simply assumed they had more potential than they did!
"Absolutely Barking Stars" is in my personal Top 20 best songs of all time. Blows me away every time I hear it. But with that talent, Maria McKee should have been a household name, no question.
And on a related note, I'll throw James Hall (whom I saw live for the one and only time in 1996 opening for McKee at the Shelter in Detroit) into the mix for unfulfilled potential. I've been listening to him a lot this past month and he is a really phenomenal songwriter. His one major label shot with Geffen went nowhere and it seems he's since become an Alex Chilton-like figure in terms of being an enigma.
I would also include John Wesley Harding/Wes Stace in this list. He's has carved out a nice career for himself, but I was sure he was on the verge of stardom in the early 90's. Great songwriter, talented live performer, smart, very funny.
Interesting thread, if a little muddy. Not fulfilling potential to me means that someone showed a spark of creativity and never really did anything with it. Nick Drake only made three albums but they're all amazing. To say that he succumbed to his own demons or whatever is one thing, but the work itself is such that I think he more than fulfilled his potential. It's just a shame there wasn't more of it.
Do you have a recommendation; what are Lofgren's best albums? Thanks.
From a mere artistic point of view , it might be for the better - can't think of many artists who released their first albums in the late 60's/early 70's but "fulfilled their potential" in later years , on a similar note Kevin Ayers released a number of great albums during that time only to be followed by lots of mediocre ones in the following decades
Yes, that's a good album (from what I've heard people say - must get it one day) but the three Only Ones albums were just so good, I had really wanted him to come to the fore and be recognized as the great songwriter he was/is. Alas he just went down the drain for 30 odd years. Amazing that he came back the way he did though!
I think he reacted against self-revelation & adopted a more remote, ironic stance. The good thing was that he still seemed to love music & enjoy playing it.
Judee Sill. Should be up there with Joni.
I guess I have to say Peter Green. Or he did fulfil his potential, it's just that his peak was too short. He was the equal of Hendrix; a complete musician. Killer guitarist and bass player, arranger, innovative songwriter with commercial appeal, emotive, fantastic singer (more powerful than Hendrix, Clapton and the rest of the guitar heroes).
I do enjoy the music from his comebacks too.
Me. I did ok, but could have done so much more.
what is your definition of potential? what is the premise? I would bet any professional keyboardist in rock would give anything to be Keith Emerson. He is one of maybe 3 keyboard players in rock that has a recognizable name, sold millions of records, and played before millions of people in stadiums worldwide. He might even be number 1 on the list with Rick Wakeman.
Nils Lofgren's 1975 solo debut , and the Grin - 1 + 1 album from '72 are good starting points.
Jaco Pastorius. Wish he would have gotten the proper help he needed.
This is surprising. Joni definitely was/is an artist who kept growing as changing, redefining her potential. A string of 10+ pretty much perfect albums and several late-career highlights.
Hm, I dunno, not every talented musician has the chops to become an everlasting superstar. Many artists only had 2 or 3 great albums in them, that is their full potential. In fact, 90% of all artists have a run of artistic quality and/or commercial success for like 5 years, and after that it's downhill, with the incidental comeback hit/album, if they're lucky.
First I thought of
Alicia Keys -- I know of her success however with her background as a classically trained pianist I had always wished she had gone in the direction of Jazz or classical music rather than the pop world but money always wins (that is personal and it doesnt mean she isnt a success)
Blind Melon -- lucky to have seen them live, boy were they a good band top to bottom
Randy Rhoades -- first 2 ozzy albums were very good
Brian Wilson -- obvious reasons
I think I would put Stephen Stills on this list. After the Buffalo Springfield albums, the first couple CSN & whoever albums, his first solo album and the first Manassas album I thought I had found a new superhero, but with each subsequent release he seemed to slip a little more. I think he had pretty serious substance abuse issues which may have caused the problems, but he never again reached those early high points
Emerson did what he wanted.
I’m sure he didn’t care about what YOU thought.....
I understand that you are only looking out for his best interests, but unfortunately it’s too late for him to consult you. The world is forever robbed now.
....turned into Mr. soundtrack. I have zero interest in his film and television scores.
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